Why do people leave ILX for good?

I would love to see Crazy Rich Asians, but I am exhausted from living this week.

^yes

loving deej's gaslighting victim turn itt

― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 17 August 2018 23:03 (twenty-four minutes ago) Permalink

Gaslighting now? Jesus

While It’s cool to watch ilx co opt the righteous language of abuse victims for arguments about a band on a music message board I have not actually been talking to Katherine for some time

??

what did I do now

nothing.

i feel like we should switch the discussion on this thread.

i left ilx because i was concerned about how much time i spent there and how hard it was to regulate my usage. i returned because i missed the sense of community and i do like some of the people who post here. also the idea of the board—a community of enthusiasts, sure, but also critics—is appealing, because so much online stuff is tribal and seems hostile to the critical mindset. the idea of ilx, to me, was the idea that people could have productive disagreements and also that the internet can be a forum for discussion.

this is seen even in just the layout. it's just text and your name. it's a messageboard for writers.

i don't feel overly proud of my posting history, honestly, because i can be kind of self-indulgent and impulsive. but compared to what the rest of the internet is (or has become) ilx is a kind of beacon of hope. i've had real discussions here that challenged me and that i have benefited from.

if, as a collective project, we could try to make this more about art and culture and criticism and less about personal beefs and zomg trump and other stuff that is rampant everywhere on the internet, i would like to be part of that collective project. i know i am guilty of posting about random news cycle bullshit more than most -- maybe more than anyone -- that's not the point. there are still interesting things posted on this board everyday -- perhaps more on ilm than ilx. (i've always been more an ilx poster bc i find it hard to keep up with the ilm crew and the rate at which they consume new music)

great posts Trϵϵship

the problem is that days like this make me want to talk about music less, not more, and definitely not here

yeah, i agree with you. if there are dynamics in the community that are alienating people with dissenting/alternate views--people who want to express a perspective rather than join a chorus--then that is going to eventually lead to the death of the board.

i'm not trying to call anyone out specifically i just feel like something went awry today and maybe it's worth thinking about if we want to keep ilx going

heh

the way thats phrased...

another thing that is alienating are all these cryptic fucking posts

it's just dmac's dry English wit

Katherine, see my post above. I usually don't even try to figure them out.

your post above is about seeing crazy rich asians so if that is some kind of message I have no idea what it is

I don't know which cryptic posts katherine is talking about 🤷‍♀️

It's the title of a movie

let's get dmac out of those wet clothes and into a dry English wit

the “the way that’s phrased...”. the way what’s phrased? what is being implied and at whose expense?

oh the one above it about how there are 4 posters or so (that I can't tell apart) that seem to be writing on spec for a juvenile british humor sitcom. And most of the posts are nonsensical. Like, I kind of get writing extra colloquially or absurdly but at a certain point no one is taking the time to read it.

i believe deems was commenting on treezy's use of "IF" we want to keep ilx going since it's not a given that we actually want to do that

ok I guess

a lot of what's posted on ilx is incomprehensible to me

I’m certainly trying to be less intelligible

I see, just, when everything sounds like some kind of free-floating zing that produces a certain chilling effect

lol

look guys

not being able to figure out a fairly basic trail of conversation aint a problem, as such

assuming as a default that this must be an attack on you personally is frankly a bit of a problem

it's almost as if ilx has a longstanding and insular culture and posting style that is often not immediately intelligible and takes time and practice to understand.

When darraghmac posts past 3 sentences and I can't understand it, I assume he's wasted or it's performance art. But I try not to feel irritated by it.

a substantial percentage of what has been said to or about me in the past 24 hours has been either an attack or in reference to one, so it isn’t an outlandish assumption

oh the one above it about how there are 4 posters or so (that I can't tell apart) that seem to be writing on spec for a juvenile british humor sitcom. And most of the posts are nonsensical. Like, I kind of get writing extra colloquially or absurdly but at a certain point no one is taking the time to read it.

― Yerac, Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:47 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is pretty unfriendly stuff, like

i dont feel either of us has earned this!

xp — I’m not irritated, more confused and unsure how to respond or what tone it is

kwtherine i get that

but if you get to the stage where all posters starg to look the same to you, and its all negative, theres not a lot can be done about that from my end is there

ive spent most of the day engaging with you fairly pleasantly imo, quite a bit of it on the history of flag posting, a favoured topic of mine. why youd then lump.me in with whatever cadre you blame for spoiling yr day, idk, but its not my issue tbh

Is yerac being sarcastic?

Nobody on ILX has ever been sarcastic, as far as I’ve noticed

No, not really. It probably doesn't help either that people call posters by their old login names so I can't tell who is who anymore. What thread is the thread in question anyway.

agree

but I do agree with darraghmac that he has engaged in good faith

It probably doesn't help either that people call posters by their old login names so I can't tell who is who anymore.

holy shit, yes, this

Well nobody knows how to spell or pronounce Shakey’s new DN

...i tend to treat yerac posts as pulling ilxs leg tbh

i try not to let it irritate me either!

also shes been extraordinarily nice on my backpacking thread

ilxors (self included) in general are rly good if their egos allow them not to need to understand everything, or not to presume what they dont understand is negative, and even if ut was it probly wasnt for them.

i mean sometimes it is too but lookit its a busyish board and we are gonna bump against each other but id buy most of ye a drink the other side of it like

xping like crazy here bloody phone

if you're having trouble keeping track of names, i recommend starting a .xls

also there is a search function available if you'd like to understand which threads a poster has been active in recently.

^cryptic

darragh is fine here. Some other places it's the fucking moops.

xpost and oh yeah, I am extraordinarily dry, mean and sarcastic in real life, but also really nice, calm and fair in real life too. And I totally troll white men because they are so absolutely easy.

the moops

now that is cryptic

Crazy Rich Asians is a movie with Awkafina

yerac lol

The moops are a defined word.

What's a moop

You can't call me a moop