the alt-right

i support unplugging the internet for a period of five years in which the whole of humanity explores their consciousness in silent meditation

yes that. of course i don't believe that you "win an argument" by adopting the rhetoric of your enemy. i'm certain that fascism is a refusal to recognize humanism and that using the latter to contest the former is silly. this is not about logic and conviction.

and you know damn well Treesh that the internet isn't getting unplugged so as a proposal...come on.

Really liked her coinage of "dogmatic hopelessness," which better gets at what I've tried to write about these guys here (on another thread maybe): that it's linked to psychological theories of "embeddedness"-- a fear of and resistence to change, growing up, etc (perhaps also linked to being left behind by your peer group and a larger social disinclination to socialize young men). It's an ideological deliberately designed to forestall taking any form of action other than resentment and self-criticism.

Plus, it's clear their feelings of rejection are largely fantasized projections. As anyone who's been rejected repeatedly can tell you: it's not that bad.

bingo

They can’t react normally to anything. Even, like, deciding to take a break from the dating game—which i feel like most people do from time to time—becomes an ideological thinv rooted in resentment of women they call “mgtow”

So you’re right—they’re reaching for a dogma that will justify their comfortable misery

I just don't see why these guys don't get into Cioran and Schopenhauer like I did at 20. At least I learned some stuff!

It is interesting to see many people (men, usually) make fun of their own teenage fascination with Nietzsche or whatever...they forget I think the intense terror and vulnerability you can feel when leaving one secure part of life for another, less certain one. That kind of thinking provides a sort of encouragement for living a life of risk, not fearful of pain, that we forget we need as we become comfortable adults again. These kids needs a Zarathustra, is what I'm saying.

First sentence - because they're not bright enough

I looked at the /r/Braincels forum, and the general reaction to Contrapoints's video seems to be "stop posting that video." :/ Hopefully it helps one person.

There's a longer answer that I'm too lazy to make on a Saturday night but this is the bottom line - fascism isn't an ideology for kids that are looking for answers, it's an ideology for kids that know everything

otm

overshadowed by other news today, but more charges were handed down related to the August 2017 Charlottesville rally:

http://www.nbc29.com/story/38931219/richard-wilson-preston-court-08-21-2018

my takeaway from this is that prosecutors couldn't prove intent, so they used the "within 1000 feet of a school" law instead. I'm fine w/that, bye asshole.

whatever happened to that guy who was on that Vice documentary with all the guns on his bed who ended up filming youtube vids where he was sibbing about the feds coming to kill him?

if i need to be more specific about which alt_right chud I'm referencing I'm afraid I can't

Chris Cantwell, the Crying Nazi?

i think there was something on twitter about moving back in with his parents

must have imagined that

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/wjk7bn/a-year-after-charlottesville-the-alt-right-is-in-shambles?utm_medium=vicenewstwitter

kinda wish this thread title was just "Crying Nazis"

Today, Cantwell lives alone, in an apartment with very dark curtains. His shelves are filled with protein powder and nutritional supplements, he has a room full of exercise equipment, and he’s taped up signs reminding him to “STOP SAYING FUCK” on the fridge and in the bathroom. His sole source of income is his racist content business, including a podcast he says has an audience of 10,000.

What a pathetic pud.

James Alex Fields, Jr. allegedly drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing Heather Heyer.

I'm seeing this wording a lot and it is very confusing to me. what exactly is "alleged" at this point? Heather Heyer is, in fact, dead; there is a video of a car being driven into a crowd of counter-protesters. what the fuck is the other option here? surprise, the car was actually elon musk's self-driving car he never told anybody about?

he hasn't been convicted in court

article written by legal requirement stickler. don't sweat it

I’m not sure but I think it’s just a standard when reporting on people who haven’t yet been convicted/pled not guilty - maybe a way to avoid the possibility of lawsuits just in case.

lol xp sorry to join the crowd. Anyway the most recent alt-right thing in Seattle on Sunday was uneventful, kinda wish they’d have had to deal with the extremely unhealthy smoke that rolled in later.

Yeah that’s standard practice (at least here in the uk), to say “allegedly” or “accused of” even when it’s recorded fact they did it

As many ppl have pointed out tho a lot of places seem to be going further than this practice demands & obfuscating the nature of the crime completely with passive-voice phrases like “was killed by a car”

I know "alleged" is a standard when reporting, but this wording (and it's in almost everything I read about Charlottesville) seems odd to me because it's not "alleged manslaughter" or "alleged murder," i.e. verdicts, or even "allegedly purposefully drove his car into a crowd," i.e. malice; it is "alleged fact that demonstrably happened." put another way, if the allegations were false, then how exactly did a car get driven through a crowd and kill heather heyer?

That's to be established in court.

Better to say "Fields is accused by police of driving his car into" etc. etc. and avoid the mealy-mouthedness of "allegedly."

even that is silly -- he was driving the car, correct? and that car was driven into the crowd, correct? so either someone jumped into his car, removed him from the wheel and did it, one of the protesters turned into the Incredible Hulk and shoved the car into the protesters at driving speed, the car glitched out in a manner that someone probably would have mentioned by now, or he drove the damn car

he was driving the car, correct? and that car was driven into the crowd, correct?

we know these things to be true but have they yet been proven in court?

think there was something on twitter about moving back in with his parents

― devvvine, Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:11 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There was definitely something about an alt-right youtuber moving back in with his parents in the past few weeks.

and it is lawyer-ordered mealy-mouthedness, yes, out of a fear of being sued

I am not gonna get upset that someone - even someone who is manifestly, obviously guilty - is being technically given the deference (in the press, as well as the courtroom) of being "innocent until proven guilty", which is a bedrock assumption of the rule of law.

Uh oh:

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/08/23/oath-keepers-announce-national-‘spartan’-training-program-aimed-‘violent-left’

Wtf would you allow single quotes in a URL

training sessions around the United States aimed at helping militiamen and “Patriots” prepare for “lethal force” at far-right events in cities targeted for right-wing protests.

p sure holding anything resembling this is a felony

ahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DleLAfXXsAA36-l?format=jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/10hfegXGKVRVNm/giphy.gif

but where did he Facebook that from, then

The Front Lines, obviously.

his sushi security bill would probably be way lower if he just stopped ordering the blowfish. I guess rich people don't realize that most of us don't employ an official food taster. However, he is absolutely correct that his money would be better spent on getting rid of his crabs.

Fake Yankee Go Home

I'm so rich and I've blown my fortune trying to destroy your suck-ass country, why won't you respect me?

oh milo, milo you got me
whinin' from the front line

Wait now there are TWO Crying Nazis? So hard to keep track

womp womp

https://giphy.com/gifs/5jYbBSHwMBJwZ06U40

https://media.giphy.com/media/5jYbBSHwMBJwZ06U40/giphy.gif ?

yes

even the prospect of schadenfreude can't get me to read something one of these fucking bozos writes