Kiarostami

I liked Derek Jarman’s Blue so much that I thought I could appreciate a story being told with just the faces of the audience to look at, a kind of forced focus to a narrative

but really didn’t connect to Shirin. maybe I’ll watch it again at some future point

i think we need to repoll this at some point. what a pitiful result.

yeah I agree

this post from Dr.M. was brutal

Kiarostami

i think we need to repoll this at some point. what a pitiful result.
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Saturday, August 18, 2018 7:31 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah I agree
― Dan S, Saturday, August 18, 2018 7:34 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kiarostami Re-Poll (i.e. Try Again, ILX)

Cheshire book

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6505-godfrey-cheshire-s-conversations-with-kiarostami

Koker came in today

Uh, y'all, this is *wild*

as someone who met and interviewed Mania Akbari shortly after Kiarostami's death (and has been subscribed for her mailing list ever since), this came as a shock pic.twitter.com/ZUONyWBZgv

— Roaming Words (@RoamingWords) June 14, 2022

fuck

Well that's unfortunate if true. =

*glumly adds this to his reading list*

https://images.routledge.com/common/jackets/amazon/978036789/9780367898649.jpg

Waiting to see what JRo says, too.

At least one retort

Akbari's efforts to paint Kiarostami as an abuser are not new (many times not related to her) in the last 3 years but they were weak and fishy. Last time she shared the short movie "Leech" from Bahman Kiarostami about a fight between him and his son (brilliant short movie btw)

— Soroush (@blissfulmalady) June 14, 2022

I’m fascinated by the numerous people on Twitter saying how much they loved Kiarostami and how deeply meaningful his work was to them but immediately they torched the bridge and proclaimed themselves done with him forever. Like, you don’t have questions about how he supposedly stole a whole movie? And that it’s about someone driving around in a car like in many of his other movies but they were this person’s family therapy sessions? And that there’s photos of him making the movie?

She makes it sound as if she went to Cannes thinking that she was going to be credited as director, and was rudely surprised when Kiarostami took credit?

I’m fascinated by the numerous people on Twitter saying how much they loved Kiarostami and how deeply meaningful his work was to them but immediately they torched the bridge and proclaimed themselves done with him forever.

Yeah, well, consider the platform.

Sounds like this all got a trial run on non-English Twitter a couple years ago but not much came of it?

I'm guessing the book she mentions is by Geoff Andrew, published last year... and featuring "a number of detailed interviews he conducted with both Kiarostami and his lead actress", but somehow this issue never came up?

That monograph is making the rounds too.

Well that's unfortunate if true. =

― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:21 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this is disgusting, as are the last ten posts in this thread.

I think the news is upsetting to say the least, and it does call into question Kiarostami's entire body of work -- not for his inexcusable personal behavior and abuse, but as I saw someone say on Twitter (naturally), if he plagiarized an entire movie in the early 2000s, then what else did he steal throughout his career? These are severe accusations, and I hope they are clarified, because although this is the first I'm hearing of it, she sounds credible and it doesn't strike me as implausible at all -- not because of anything in Kiarostami per se, but it sounds like plenty of abusive men. Just very sad.

holy shit

The authorities (Letterboxd) have weighed in and are now crediting the movie to Akbari and acknowledging the gravity of the issue by giving it a new, jokey title.
https://letterboxd.com/film/uncertified-copy/

Really saddened by this. I hope that Akbari can be given reparations if this is confirmed.

acknowledging the gravity of the issue by giving it a new, jokey title

Are they tho?