explain the inexplicable: Bradley Cooper’s A STAR IS BORN feat Lady Gaga

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fwiw my dad was a country musician in the 70s and what meager royalty checks he receives to this day largely come from europe

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

ok now on topic:

i have no idea what this movie is but it sounds bad

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

i think it might be ok.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Sunday, 19 August 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link

i still want Bradley Cooper to die in a fire but the trailer looks pretty good.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Sunday, 19 August 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

OP the answer to all your questions is YAAASSS

a roomba of one's own (rip van wanko), Sunday, 19 August 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

So.... I was an extra in this. Might even be actually visible in it depending on how much non-stage footage from Hollywood Bowl was used. I actually forgot I was because principle filming was done over a year ago.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link

Damn son!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 August 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link

Did you have to actually experience Bradley Cooper/Lady Gaga performing country music or did you just pretend to experience it?

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 20 August 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

I just hope they keep one Dorothy Parker line from the first version's screenplay

(it doesn't matter which one)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 August 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

The '76 A Star is Born, available on Netflix, is a curiosity: Streisand's hairdresser commissioning a script about country rock in which no artist plays rock or country, and, god, the dialogue.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2018 02:24 (five years ago) link

is it worth trying to watch?

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link

Babs wanted Elvis as her leading man!

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 August 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link

Streisand's hairdresser

I worked for that guy for one week. Not long enough to get physically assaulted fortunately.

omar little, Monday, 20 August 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link

Did you have to actually experience Bradley Cooper/Lady Gaga performing country music or did you just pretend to experience it?

My take on this is that this question should be "did you actually have to experience Bradley Cooper attempt to direct a movie or just pretend to experience it because Cooper was certainly pretending to direct?"

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link

The '76 A Star is Born, available on Netflix, is a curiosity: Streisand's hairdresser commissioning a script about country rock in which no artist plays rock or country, and, god, the dialogue.

Ladies and gentlemen, the 3rd highest grosser of 1976

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 20 August 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link

ET I want all the details

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 20 August 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link

^^^^

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2018 04:53 (five years ago) link

Babs wanted Elvis as her leading man!

same tbh

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 20 August 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

I wish I had some juicy details. I don't make a career out of doing extra work, but I've done it enough times to get a sense of what's going on and what the mood of the set is like. TV productions are race car pit crews - they've all been working together for years, the director is a known quantity, the cast's roles are defined, and for the most part everyone knows what to do. The movie shoots I've worked on (almost all non-indie because you get paid and the food is great) weren't terribly different. Bigger crew, longer shoot, occasional luxury to dwell on one scene to explore different takes if you're ahead of schedule, nevertheless if it's organized there's some sense that there's a "there" out there for everyone to row towards together.

None of this was apparent on the ASIB set. The below-the-line crew were great and fun to talk with because absolutely nothing was happening. "What's going on? I don't know..." was the call and response I heard everywhere - on the walkie-talkies, among the crew, the extras, the stand-ins, everywhere. Coachella, the Hollywood Bowl, and the Shrine Auditorium are all rented out, several hundred crew members, hundreds more out in the crowd, and the band onstage are all patiently waiting. A LOT of money is being spent.

Cooper would come out, strum a guitar for a couple of lines, then remember he was the director and that he needed to assert himself as one. Hey AD & DP, can we get different angle from stage right? OK, We'll have to move the crowd, re-do the lighting, move the camera dollies to the other side - it'll take at least a hour of time and money to do this. BTW it's 9 in the evening and everyone has been here since 7am. Repeat this with every scene.

I don't really have an opinion on the guy other than he seemed to be in way over his head and that he was very appreciative and gracious to everyone regardless of who they were. That last bit goes a long way with me but if a good movie comes out of this it'll be in post.

Worth noting that there was an absolute electric change in on set energy whenever Gaga was around and unlike Cooper, sang live instead of miming along to a backing tape. Hopefully those live takes will make it into the movie.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 27 August 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

heck that's pretty juicy as is imo

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 27 August 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

quite possibly, 'A Star is Born' has been remade more than any other movie

if you count things that started as books or stories, it's not even in sight of the running

if you count film-original stories, it's tied with King Kong at three non-sequel remakes, but Night Of The Living Dead is at six remakes and two in post.

if you count films that retell a story from different perspectives repeatedly but don't keep using the title of the original, Rashomon is probably way up there

▫◌▫ (sic), Monday, 27 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

lol

there’s no such thing as casual conversation with you, is there

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

sometimes I think these things are fun to follow through.

▫◌▫ (sic), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link

half the people on my wall who whined about it being remade didn't know the Streisand one wasn't the original.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

(I didn’t know how many non-sequel Living Deads there were, just that there was some weirdness around the copyright which means nobody owns it. I definitely can’t think of another original-to-film story that’s been remade three times under the same title, and am delighted that Aimless has put the likelihood in the back of my mind for the future.)

▫◌▫ (sic), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link

<3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

it's tied with King Kong at three non-sequel remakes,

There's the Dino De Laurentiis one from 1976, the Peter Jackson one, and???

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 05:22 (five years ago) link

Also, one can make a pretty good argument that the first A Star Is Born from 1937 is itself a remake of the 1932 film What Price Hollywood?

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 05:27 (five years ago) link

Victor/Victoria also ties for second with three remakes.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 05:32 (five years ago) link

Crazy Heart made a bunch of money and won awards and that didn't have anyone as pretty as Gaga or Cooper.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 06:00 (five years ago) link

There's the Dino De Laurentiis one from 1976, the Peter Jackson one, and???

Kong: Skull Island from last year

Number None, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 06:31 (five years ago) link

if you count things that started as books or stories...

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Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 06:48 (five years ago) link

uh, The Bible, guys

Number None, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 07:01 (five years ago) link

Kong: Skull Island from last year

I'm going to disagree on this one - if we're going to include this one then we should include the Toho Kong vs. Godzilla movies.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

I expect ben hur numbers

Why does the trailer emphasize that bcoop directed it? How is that a selling point?

dat, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

people generally don't know who directors are

it's a selling point

Number None, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

it's a PASSION PROJECT through and through

Yung Detective (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

Cooper's best acting might just be the PR campaign how he wanted to direct, passion project, blah blah.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

famous-actor-directs-film is almost always a marketing point

if we're going to include this one then we should include the Toho Kong vs. Godzilla movies.

nah*, there are sequels to the 1933 and 1976 Kongs that also don't count. but Kong: Skull Island is a remake of King Kong that just doesn't have the New York bit.


*although the plot summary for useless moderator King Kong vs Godzilla does make me suspect that that one might be close enough. (I've only seen the 1933 and Skull Island.)

▫◌▫ (sic), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

lmao talkhouse broke embargo, no idea who the reviewer is

And we are off to the races. pic.twitter.com/PTZ9IFNnqm

— Sean Fennessey (@SeanFennessey) August 27, 2018

devvvine, Thursday, 30 August 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

well, i'm convinced

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

gonna hedge my bets and say this won't be the most impressive directorial debut by an actor since Night of The Hunter

devvvine, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

lmao

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

A Star Is Born (2018, dir. Bradley Cooper) pic.twitter.com/BudBkeMSmZ

— ☭ a rube ☭ (@faggiecheung) August 28, 2018

Number None, Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

omfg

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

outstanding

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

Glenn Kenny's on board:

Not to disparage the talents of any individuals who worked on it (and I should emphasize that Cooper does damn well playing a musician, and Gaga is her usual disciplined marvel), but this is an example of Big Movie Studio Craft at its most well-thought out; among the many contingents of moviegoers it will please will be the “they don’t make ‘em like that anymore” crowd.

... (Eazy), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

When we complain they don't make 'em like that anymore we don't want actual remakes of "'em." Having said that this could be an entertaining mess.

abcfsk, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

I think I would go to some other movie starring Lady Gaga, but not this one.

faculty w1fe (silby), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

Nature trying to destroy this movie https://www.indiewire.com/2018/08/a-star-is-born-world-premiere-lighting-projector-venice-1201999539/

faculty w1fe (silby), Saturday, 1 September 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

I wanted an entire film of Coop using boyfriend's butt as bongos.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 17:14 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldFWvHa4Svg

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 30 December 2023 17:37 (three months ago) link

Yes, the ostensible main point of the movie is the relationship but both characters are ciphers. Also, apparently in real life he wrote Felicia a letter before they married about his attraction to men and need for the occasional boy toy, and she wrote back accepting of it! On the other hand, the movie never makes it clear what sort of arrangement they had.

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 30 December 2023 17:42 (three months ago) link

Coop no doubt thought American Netflix viewers couldn't stand the idea of an open marriage.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 17:43 (three months ago) link

But his relationship with his wife isn't an inherently interesting story imo.

I guess we just disagree on this point.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:07 (three months ago) link

"It's a movie about his relationship with his wife" coupled with Cooper's very transparent need for alms and validation all just adds up to "we want to win both lead acting Oscars for this one" to me

― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Saturday, December 30, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I mean, it's that time of year isn't it? I'm willing to be there are other movies out right now that you like that are also transparently aiming for Oscars.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:08 (three months ago) link

Yes, the ostensible main point of the movie is the relationship but both characters are ciphers. Also, apparently in real life he wrote Felicia a letter before they married about his attraction to men and need for the occasional boy toy, and she wrote back accepting of it! On the other hand, the movie never makes it clear what sort of arrangement they had.

― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, December 30, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I think you just missed it. She knew nearly from the beginning. The scene where they are watching, and then participating, in the On the Town dance number seems pretty clearly to say she sees him in his homoerotic desires. And this was before they married. And after they're married there are numerous scenes where she speaks to him directly about it.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:11 (three months ago) link

Yeah, it's clear to me the wife knew; the film's Bernstein isn't hiding it from friends, why should he hide it from her? But I still didn't find this bit compelling.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:48 (three months ago) link

Well I think the relationship wasn’t defined as “she knew but couldn’t accept it” or “She willfully looked the other way” or “ she tried to be tolerant but life is messy and she found herself unhappy about it”

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:48 (three months ago) link

I know she knew in the movie but her motivations remained obscure because her character was so poorly sketched out.

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:51 (three months ago) link

Please compare that with "Night and Day," the Cary Grant movie where he plays Cole Porter.

In the movie he is portrayed as "carrying a torch for" Linda, though some accounts suggest that he wanted the social cover of a marriage blanche, as they used to say.

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 30 December 2023 20:04 (three months ago) link

Sorry blanc or maybe lavender

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 30 December 2023 20:12 (three months ago) link

_"It's a movie about his relationship with his wife" coupled with Cooper's very transparent need for alms and validation all just adds up to "we want to win both lead acting Oscars for this one" to me

― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Saturday, December 30, 2023 bookmarkflaglink_

I mean, it's that time of year isn't it? I'm willing to be there are other movies out right now that you like that are also transparently aiming for Oscars.

Yes, May December. But that movie sacrifices absolutely none of its inherent weirdness in pursuit of the gold

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 December 2023 20:22 (three months ago) link

the movie is about their marriage but for some reason it does not do a very good job of letting you inside to understand the push and pull of her attraction. On the one hand it's easy to say 'she knew what she was getting into so why does she have such a hard time with his homosexuality later on', but real relationships are complicated. The problem with the film is that it doesn't really sell that complication. Outside of the very first scenes I don't know that I ever believed she actually loved him. I don't know if this was the case in real life or a fault of the film.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 30 December 2023 20:38 (three months ago) link

Mulligan doesn't help either. She's supposed to be urbane but she looks stricken. I'm not sure she knew what she was supposed to play.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 20:44 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Blecch. What a shit script on this...

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 17 February 2024 12:41 (two months ago) link

Hey, don’t blame me, I didn’t write it

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 February 2024 12:44 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW9Lfs-Fxmo

budo jeru, Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:35 (two months ago) link


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