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Today, Cantwell lives alone, in an apartment with very dark curtains. His shelves are filled with protein powder and nutritional supplements, he has a room full of exercise equipment, and he’s taped up signs reminding him to “STOP SAYING FUCK” on the fridge and in the bathroom. His sole source of income is his racist content business, including a podcast he says has an audience of 10,000.

What a pathetic pud.

Bog Dole (stevie), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

James Alex Fields, Jr. allegedly drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing Heather Heyer.

I'm seeing this wording a lot and it is very confusing to me. what exactly is "alleged" at this point? Heather Heyer is, in fact, dead; there is a video of a car being driven into a crowd of counter-protesters. what the fuck is the other option here? surprise, the car was actually elon musk's self-driving car he never told anybody about?

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

he hasn't been convicted in court

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

article written by legal requirement stickler. don't sweat it

imago, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

I’m not sure but I think it’s just a standard when reporting on people who haven’t yet been convicted/pled not guilty - maybe a way to avoid the possibility of lawsuits just in case.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

lol xp sorry to join the crowd. Anyway the most recent alt-right thing in Seattle on Sunday was uneventful, kinda wish they’d have had to deal with the extremely unhealthy smoke that rolled in later.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

Yeah that’s standard practice (at least here in the uk), to say “allegedly” or “accused of” even when it’s recorded fact they did it

As many ppl have pointed out tho a lot of places seem to be going further than this practice demands & obfuscating the nature of the crime completely with passive-voice phrases like “was killed by a car”

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

I know "alleged" is a standard when reporting, but this wording (and it's in almost everything I read about Charlottesville) seems odd to me because it's not "alleged manslaughter" or "alleged murder," i.e. verdicts, or even "allegedly purposefully drove his car into a crowd," i.e. malice; it is "alleged fact that demonstrably happened." put another way, if the allegations were false, then how exactly did a car get driven through a crowd and kill heather heyer?

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

That's to be established in court.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

Better to say "Fields is accused by police of driving his car into" etc. etc. and avoid the mealy-mouthedness of "allegedly."

Eliza D., Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

even that is silly -- he was driving the car, correct? and that car was driven into the crowd, correct? so either someone jumped into his car, removed him from the wheel and did it, one of the protesters turned into the Incredible Hulk and shoved the car into the protesters at driving speed, the car glitched out in a manner that someone probably would have mentioned by now, or he drove the damn car

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link

he was driving the car, correct? and that car was driven into the crowd, correct?

we know these things to be true but have they yet been proven in court?

Bog Dole (stevie), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

think there was something on twitter about moving back in with his parents

― devvvine, Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:11 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There was definitely something about an alt-right youtuber moving back in with his parents in the past few weeks.

incarcerated moonfaces (how's life), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

and it is lawyer-ordered mealy-mouthedness, yes, out of a fear of being sued

Bog Dole (stevie), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

I am not gonna get upset that someone - even someone who is manifestly, obviously guilty - is being technically given the deference (in the press, as well as the courtroom) of being "innocent until proven guilty", which is a bedrock assumption of the rule of law.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

Uh oh:

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/08/23/oath-keepers-announce-national-‘spartan’-training-program-aimed-‘violent-left’

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

Wtf would you allow single quotes in a URL

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

training sessions around the United States aimed at helping militiamen and “Patriots” prepare for “lethal force” at far-right events in cities targeted for right-wing protests.

p sure holding anything resembling this is a felony

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 August 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

https://media.giphy.com/media/10hfegXGKVRVNm/giphy.gif

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

but where did he Facebook that from, then

Doctor Casϵϵno (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

The Front Lines, obviously.

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

his sushi security bill would probably be way lower if he just stopped ordering the blowfish. I guess rich people don't realize that most of us don't employ an official food taster. However, he is absolutely correct that his money would be better spent on getting rid of his crabs.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

Fake Yankee Go Home

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

I'm so rich and I've blown my fortune trying to destroy your suck-ass country, why won't you respect me?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

oh milo, milo you got me
whinin' from the front line

Doctor Casϵϵno (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

Wait now there are TWO Crying Nazis? So hard to keep track

Οὖτις, Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

womp womp

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

https://giphy.com/gifs/5jYbBSHwMBJwZ06U40

omar little, Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

https://media.giphy.com/media/5jYbBSHwMBJwZ06U40/giphy.gif ?

▫◌▫ (sic), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

yes

▫◌▫ (sic), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

even the prospect of schadenfreude can't get me to read something one of these fucking bozos writes

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

thx sic

omar little, Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

meanwhile, at my fucking shitty alma mater: https://triad-city-beat.com/climate-violence-students-set-stage-clashes-unc/

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 27 August 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

christ

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 27 August 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link

I tweeted this but Chapel Hill is sure fine with keeping people from out of town away from campus/Franklin Street (not technically part of campus but) when it's people who want to celebrate Halloween, but if it's white nationalists with SS tattoos from out of town and in some cases out of the state? sure, come on onto campus

also that the police are freaking the fuck out about setting confederate flags on fire yet every year during basketball season there are large-ass bonfires and property destruction on Franklin Street but that's A-OK

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 27 August 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

(there are some issues involved with what's university property and what's Chapel Hill property and who has jurisdiction where, but both UNC and Chapel Hill police officers were mentioned as being there)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 27 August 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

Potentially interesting paper on the alt-right’s use of a certain phrase:

https://www.academia.edu/37240375/The_Alt-Rights_Discourse_of_Cultural_Marxism_A_Political_Instrument_of_Intersectional_Hate

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

(there are some issues involved with what's university property and what's Chapel Hill property and who has jurisdiction where, but both UNC and Chapel Hill police officers were mentioned as being there)

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, August 27, 2018 12:40 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i can't remember if this board has yet properly basked in the glory of this, the world's stupidest tweet:

Idea: Any school in America named for a Confederate be named for John McCain. And UNC, instead of putting up Silent Sam commission, a McCain statue

— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger)
August 27, 2018

evol j, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

can't think of anyone who'd have a problem with that

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

this is legitimately weird. I think i'm having a psychotic break

4chan nerds are photoshopping David Hogg to look female, calling him Daisy, and then having sexual fantasies about their Daisy Hogg memes. I feel like this is some... new, uncharted form of self-own pic.twitter.com/UkbYERuhan

— Michael Edison Hayden (@MichaelEHayden) August 28, 2018

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

o_O

faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

it's a shitty transphobic joke that doesn't need amplifying

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

good fucking god:

https://spectator.us/2018/09/fbi-questioned-kantbot/

goole, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

?

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

Oof, wish I could say I was surprised

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

BREAKING: Cody Wilson, the Austin man behind 3D-printed guns who has been accused of sexually assaulting a 16-year-old girl, has been arrested in Taiwan, according to media outlet Taiwan News. https://t.co/Z3Opaa2E1m pic.twitter.com/Bv8eY4UNF8

— Austin Statesman (@statesman) September 21, 2018

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link

In other news, penniless loser to address conference of Morrissey's favourite political party.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/sep/23/katie-hopkins-speak-far-right-for-britain-islamophobe-holocaust-denier

Zach Same (Tom D.), Monday, 24 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link


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