the Harper's review is good and funny but I'd prefer to read reviews from haters
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
tons of teenagers & undergrads on the subreddit
― flappy bird, Friday, 24 August 2018 01:54 (five years ago) link
On the Slate podcast: http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/gist/2018/08/chapo_trap_house_s_virgil_texas_matt_christman_and_will_menaker_join_guest.html
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link
The Verge has a profile of the wonderful Natalie Wynn (aka ContraPoints)
“I die laughing every time TheGoldenOne is included in your videos,” writes one commenter. That, indeed, is the point. And it’s bigger than just making a funny for its own sake.The strategy captures a dynamic noted by fellow LeftTuber, film critic Lindsay Ellis, in her analysis of the satire in Mel Brooks’ The Producers. She argues that aesthetics of the earnestly anti-Nazi film American History X are eagerly aped by actual neo-Nazis, but the uproariously campy rendition of Hitler’s Germany in The Producers is not. Real life Nazis are not, Ellis notes dryly, singing “Springtime for Hitler.” In the end, despite all the controversy about the film, it hit them where it hurt.Wynn’s strikes as ContraPoints are similarly surgical, and what parses as lighthearted jocularity or inexplicable sexual attraction at first quickly resolves into a virtual pantsing. It’s a prologue to an elegant crash course in the history of postmodernism and why Peterson’s obscurantism makes him difficult to argue with. Calling Jordan Peterson “daddy” and portraying him as a robot lovingly watching Wynn bathe doesn’t ennoble him; it erodes him. That was made clear when Peterson’s sole response to Wynn’s carefully argued video was a mere “no comment,” when he had thundered at and even threatened more earnest (less flirty) critics.
The strategy captures a dynamic noted by fellow LeftTuber, film critic Lindsay Ellis, in her analysis of the satire in Mel Brooks’ The Producers. She argues that aesthetics of the earnestly anti-Nazi film American History X are eagerly aped by actual neo-Nazis, but the uproariously campy rendition of Hitler’s Germany in The Producers is not. Real life Nazis are not, Ellis notes dryly, singing “Springtime for Hitler.” In the end, despite all the controversy about the film, it hit them where it hurt.
Wynn’s strikes as ContraPoints are similarly surgical, and what parses as lighthearted jocularity or inexplicable sexual attraction at first quickly resolves into a virtual pantsing. It’s a prologue to an elegant crash course in the history of postmodernism and why Peterson’s obscurantism makes him difficult to argue with. Calling Jordan Peterson “daddy” and portraying him as a robot lovingly watching Wynn bathe doesn’t ennoble him; it erodes him. That was made clear when Peterson’s sole response to Wynn’s carefully argued video was a mere “no comment,” when he had thundered at and even threatened more earnest (less flirty) critics.
https://www.theverge.com/tech/2018/8/24/17689090/contrapoints-youtube-natalie-wynn
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link
contrapoints owns
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
Chapo: the Playboy Interview
https://www.playboy.com/read/chapo-trap-house
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
If the audiobook matches up performance to who wrote each part, Virgil is the best writer of the bunch by a long shot.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 24 August 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link
Yeah, Matt’s not much of a writer, Will is more of an editor, Felix just riffs, and Brendan was an actual reporter.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link
And together they became the
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 August 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link
funny I thought Virgil's chapters were generally the weakest, though the nadir is of course Matt's recycled Prestige TV chapter. they should really just not cover pop culture at all beyond bad conservative agitprop
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link
i'm 100 pages in and the funniest section of the book so far are the illustrations & descriptions of Wine Mom, App-Hole, Liberal Hawk, etc. I'm assuming those were written by Felix, they sound like him.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 25 August 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link
Felix and Virgil have a sense of timing, Matt and Will are very 'and then and then and then.'
― louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 25 August 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link
I appreciated their extended plug for the prison strike in today's ep. Reminded me to donate.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:07 (five years ago) link
I can't believe you all are actually reading this
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link
i'm reviewing it i have an excuse
― flappy bird, Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link
can't knock the hustle
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 05:16 (five years ago) link
I stole the audiobook and just treated it like another set of episodes
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link
Wait, did I just read a playboy link... for the article?
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 25 August 2018 07:49 (five years ago) link
bananaman...... welcome to the resistance
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link
We at Chapo Trap House would like to extend our thoughts and prayers to the family of John McCain and offer them a coupon for 5% off the audiobook version of The Chapo Guide To Revolution: A Manifesto Against Logic, Facts, and Reason. It’s in Vietnamese though.— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 24, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:55 (five years ago) link
The offer has expired.— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 26, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 26 August 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/chapo-trap-house-plumbs-the-most-perverse-possible-outcome-of-trumps-presidency/
The reality is that the voting base that horrifies them so is really a small percentage of people who have been empowered by the alienation of the majority, and of course by gerrymandering and voter suppression. The solution to those problems is a genuine left-wing political movement that liberals simply aren’t comfortable with. So instead they favor a managed, bureaucratic form of democracy.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 27 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
that's a good interview
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link
yeah, I'd recommend that to anyone who is inclined to think they're just contrarian airheads or whatever. I don't even think the US Politics thread would find much to disagree with in his analysis there.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:51 (five years ago) link
finally, the take I'd been waiting for
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/28/chapo-trap-house-book-review-219596
the "no such thing as a neoliberal" stuff right at the top kinda gives the game away though
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link
Do you casually use “neoliberal” as an insult, even though nobody has spotted a neoliberal in the wild since Gary Hart’s 1984 presidential campaign? Do you enjoy history lectures, but only when they are delivered by sarcastic, self-righteous people who conveniently omit anything that conflicts with their ideological worldview?
exquisite
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link
great way to kick off your own history lecture which conveniently omits anything with conflicts with your ideological worldview
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link
xp unironic yes to all those
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
I haven't read the book per se but "Reading this, I was reminded of George F. Will" is an amazing burn
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
the middle chunk of that review had some arguments that could at least be hashed out between reasonable parties, too bad he totally gives the game away with all the petulant smarm at the beginning and end.
― evol j, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
hmm wonder if there was something specific in the book which made this guy mad
https://i.redditmedia.com/y3B7Yiuodx7rsifT8PEGD2VfMEpBru3KkzA9tHEltyo.jpg?w=1024&s=1a09001ec401720b92a47eda32608553
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
"native to the Web Zone" is like something out of baudrillard
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
Virgil’s campaign was successful:
🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾LET'S GO @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE!🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾 pic.twitter.com/ep0vIw3s2D— Touchstone Books (@TouchstoneBooks) August 29, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
The bookstore appearance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pOY0ea01Y
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
is amber not involved in the book?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
nope, no amber in the book
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link
is she the cappadonna of chapo?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
New episode with Stav rules
― flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link
why is it not surprising the woman involved just happens to be left off
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link
not that I'm a chapo expert but wasn't she in the UK a lot during the time period they were writing the book?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
i don't listen to chapo that often anymore - occasionally catch it when my gf is listening - but amber is on it a lot less often than used to be the case i feel? i mean she is the host who has more of a life outside of the show than the others (adjunct prof, writer, activist) while like, felix just games and works out. unlikely that she was excluded
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link
Yeah this was mentioned in one of the book interviews - the day job kept her too busy to write
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
this is only funny because Amber is easily the most #problematic chapo person
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
stav’s story about his grandfather in today’s episode is incredible btw
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link
Amber also mentioned she’s working on her own book, to which her trips to the UK were related
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
if it winds up including "wreckers" in the title or synopsis I'm going to stay far, far away
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
Hot couch guys might be my favorite Chapo bit ever
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
Amber's book is about labour organizing history, I think.
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
Man, Mother Jones going thru some rough times to run Kevin Drum’s shitty column.
So there you have it. These are both proposals for old-school socialism, with the government (or “the workers”) controlling the means of production and doling out money equitably to everyone who needs it. The details are different, and Bruenig at least pretends to have a path for getting there, but you’re not going to like either one if you have a soft spot in your heart for private enterprise.Which I do. Government-run enterprises are almost inevitably run badly and government controlled paychecks are almost inevitably corrupt beyond all imagining. Still, would that be worse than the immense amount of wealth and income inequality that we put up with today? That requires a bit of thought.No, wait. It doesn’t. It would be worse. A lot worse. I think I’ll stick with social democracy aka regulated capitalism, thankyouverymuch. Until the robots show up, of course, at which point we might as well just let them run everything
Which I do. Government-run enterprises are almost inevitably run badly and government controlled paychecks are almost inevitably corrupt beyond all imagining. Still, would that be worse than the immense amount of wealth and income inequality that we put up with today? That requires a bit of thought.
No, wait. It doesn’t. It would be worse. A lot worse. I think I’ll stick with social democracy aka regulated capitalism, thankyouverymuch. Until the robots show up, of course, at which point we might as well just let them run everything
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link
the first part where they're talking about Beto O'Rourke and Ted Cruz is great because it literally just sounds like they're using the Stavbot, he has almost nothing to say beyond "whoa," "hell yeah," "nice," "noo, fuck no dude," "oh for real?" and his various cackles. But Stav sorta carries the hot couch bit. Great ep
― flappy bird, Friday, 31 August 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link