Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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Yeah, Matt’s not much of a writer, Will is more of an editor, Felix just riffs, and Brendan was an actual reporter.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

And together they became the

President Keyes, Saturday, 25 August 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

funny I thought Virgil's chapters were generally the weakest, though the nadir is of course Matt's recycled Prestige TV chapter. they should really just not cover pop culture at all beyond bad conservative agitprop

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link

i'm 100 pages in and the funniest section of the book so far are the illustrations & descriptions of Wine Mom, App-Hole, Liberal Hawk, etc. I'm assuming those were written by Felix, they sound like him.

flappy bird, Saturday, 25 August 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

Felix and Virgil have a sense of timing, Matt and Will are very 'and then and then and then.'

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 25 August 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link

I appreciated their extended plug for the prison strike in today's ep. Reminded me to donate.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:07 (five years ago) link

I can't believe you all are actually reading this

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link

i'm reviewing it i have an excuse

flappy bird, Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

can't knock the hustle

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 05:16 (five years ago) link

I stole the audiobook and just treated it like another set of episodes

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link

Wait, did I just read a playboy link... for the article?

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 25 August 2018 07:49 (five years ago) link

bananaman...... welcome to the resistance

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link

We at Chapo Trap House would like to extend our thoughts and prayers to the family of John McCain and offer them a coupon for 5% off the audiobook version of The Chapo Guide To Revolution: A Manifesto Against Logic, Facts, and Reason. It’s in Vietnamese though.

— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 24, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:55 (five years ago) link

The offer has expired.

— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 26, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 26 August 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/chapo-trap-house-plumbs-the-most-perverse-possible-outcome-of-trumps-presidency/

The reality is that the voting base that horrifies them so is really a small percentage of people who have been empowered by the alienation of the majority, and of course by gerrymandering and voter suppression. The solution to those problems is a genuine left-wing political movement that liberals simply aren’t comfortable with. So instead they favor a managed, bureaucratic form of democracy.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 27 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

that's a good interview

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link

yeah, I'd recommend that to anyone who is inclined to think they're just contrarian airheads or whatever. I don't even think the US Politics thread would find much to disagree with in his analysis there.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:51 (five years ago) link

finally, the take I'd been waiting for

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/28/chapo-trap-house-book-review-219596

the "no such thing as a neoliberal" stuff right at the top kinda gives the game away though

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link

Do you casually use “neoliberal” as an insult, even though nobody has spotted a neoliberal in the wild since Gary Hart’s 1984 presidential campaign? Do you enjoy history lectures, but only when they are delivered by sarcastic, self-righteous people who conveniently omit anything that conflicts with their ideological worldview?

exquisite

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

great way to kick off your own history lecture which conveniently omits anything with conflicts with your ideological worldview

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

xp unironic yes to all those

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

I haven't read the book per se but "Reading this, I was reminded of George F. Will" is an amazing burn

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

the middle chunk of that review had some arguments that could at least be hashed out between reasonable parties, too bad he totally gives the game away with all the petulant smarm at the beginning and end.

evol j, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

hmm wonder if there was something specific in the book which made this guy mad

https://i.redditmedia.com/y3B7Yiuodx7rsifT8PEGD2VfMEpBru3KkzA9tHEltyo.jpg?w=1024&s=1a09001ec401720b92a47eda32608553

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

"native to the Web Zone" is like something out of baudrillard

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

Virgil’s campaign was successful:

🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾
LET'S GO @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE!
🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾 pic.twitter.com/ep0vIw3s2D

— Touchstone Books (@TouchstoneBooks) August 29, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

The bookstore appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pOY0ea01Y

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

is amber not involved in the book?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

nope, no amber in the book

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

is she the cappadonna of chapo?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

New episode with Stav rules

flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

why is it not surprising the woman involved just happens to be left off

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

not that I'm a chapo expert but wasn't she in the UK a lot during the time period they were writing the book?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

i don't listen to chapo that often anymore - occasionally catch it when my gf is listening - but amber is on it a lot less often than used to be the case i feel? i mean she is the host who has more of a life outside of the show than the others (adjunct prof, writer, activist) while like, felix just games and works out. unlikely that she was excluded

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah this was mentioned in one of the book interviews - the day job kept her too busy to write

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

why is it not surprising the woman involved just happens to be left off

this is only funny because Amber is easily the most #problematic chapo person

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

stav’s story about his grandfather in today’s episode is incredible btw

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

Amber also mentioned she’s working on her own book, to which her trips to the UK were related

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

if it winds up including "wreckers" in the title or synopsis I'm going to stay far, far away

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

Hot couch guys might be my favorite Chapo bit ever

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

Amber's book is about labour organizing history, I think.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

Man, Mother Jones going thru some rough times to run Kevin Drum’s shitty column.

So there you have it. These are both proposals for old-school socialism, with the government (or “the workers”) controlling the means of production and doling out money equitably to everyone who needs it. The details are different, and Bruenig at least pretends to have a path for getting there, but you’re not going to like either one if you have a soft spot in your heart for private enterprise.

Which I do. Government-run enterprises are almost inevitably run badly and government controlled paychecks are almost inevitably corrupt beyond all imagining. Still, would that be worse than the immense amount of wealth and income inequality that we put up with today? That requires a bit of thought.

No, wait. It doesn’t. It would be worse. A lot worse. I think I’ll stick with social democracy aka regulated capitalism, thankyouverymuch. Until the robots show up, of course, at which point we might as well just let them run everything

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

the first part where they're talking about Beto O'Rourke and Ted Cruz is great because it literally just sounds like they're using the Stavbot, he has almost nothing to say beyond "whoa," "hell yeah," "nice," "noo, fuck no dude," "oh for real?" and his various cackles. But Stav sorta carries the hot couch bit. Great ep

flappy bird, Friday, 31 August 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

Strasserism: Actually Good by Amber A'lee Frost

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 31 August 2018 11:54 (five years ago) link

That’s more of a Red Scare take, innit

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

Just arrived. Breaking out the good specs to see what the commotion's about. @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE @willmenaker pic.twitter.com/kzf9VvL5LN

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) August 31, 2018

Chapo: Dr Morbius approved

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

oh my God

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 August 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

Haha

Chapo Trap House Wikipedia article edited anonymously from US House of Representatives https://t.co/RKhk702k6l pic.twitter.com/6cXTqsV2Yz

— congress-edits (@congressedits) August 31, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link

A positive review:

Of course, fans of Chapo Trap House will find much to like in The Chapo Guide to Revolution. What about the uninitiated? Well, a book like this demands a certain level of tolerance for vulgarity and alike. Those turned off by masturbation jokes or by passages praising the stunning perfection of the albino twins from the second Matrix film are unlikely to stick with this volume for long.

http://artsfuse.org/173403/book-review-the-chapo-guide-to-revolution-laughing-at-catastrophe/

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link


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