Is that any way describe a Papal visit?
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
"When Crouch was 'dissed' by Prince Harry"
ho ho ho lol etc... arrrgh! fucking privatise these cunts already.
― calzino, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 08:58 (five years ago) link
Can add this deleted tweet to the pile now. pic.twitter.com/t2NosOwAZa— Tom Mills (@ta_mills) October 29, 2018
― brokenshire (jed_), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
so sick of politically correct whinging about death squads
― the Warnock of Clodhop Mountain (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
I've not seen one mention of the United Nations rapporteur arriving to investigate extreme poverty in the UK. Another one for the dossier to be read to them before they are lined up against the wall.
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
This is atrocious:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/46147166
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
emily maitlis, how that boot taste
― i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
another one for the dossier.
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
I've been in high-pressure press conferences. And the art is to ask the single most succinct question that will land you the best possible response.
lol, good advice!
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
never mind pertinent questions, you are just making content.
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
mr president this is not so much a question as a comment
adding: i mean, she's kind of right? obviously the WH is being colossally dishonest abt what happened but it's ALWAYS ALREADY colosally dishonest and yet still "the rules and conventions" are adhered to day in day out, to be gamed by them ("them") and whinily invoked us ('us"). the entire set-up is bullshit and should be binned forthwith by serious media outlets soup to nuts, if they actually care abt informing their readers and their viewers. if you're going timidly (or even dickishly) to test the limits of the form, you should really properly test them and blow the whole thing up. no best-formed version of what acosta was doing was going to be the unmasking-oz moment.
― mark s, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
BBC political hack admits that this game of etiquette/presentation is far too important to be ruined by journalism. Saying that, Acosta seems like a complete cock as well!
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
She strikes me as the type of upper middle class white woman who uses ‘with all due respect’ to indicate anger.
― suzy, Friday, 9 November 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
I agree with Maitlis.
― Alba, Friday, 9 November 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
I mean, if it was the same question being persued cause Trump hadn’t answered, fine, but it seems dickish to rob other journalists of the chance to ask their own.
― Alba, Friday, 9 November 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
No, I think you have right of reply at the very least when the Prez is making lame personal comments about you and your employer. That fucker needs reminding that he’s everyone’s employee, including the members of the press.
― suzy, Friday, 9 November 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
it's hard for me not take such a smug bbc crypto-tory twat as the right person to preaching political hack etiquette and when Piers Morgan is endorsing someones's "unpopular" hottake, you know something stinks a bit.
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
sorry garbled rushed post but with the BBC's record of impartial political punditry in recent years, she's really on thin ice and wanging bricks in a glasshouse and all that!
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
I don’t give a fuck what Piers Morgan thinks and I wish Twitter would allow me to mute him properly instead of letting “zingers” against him stink up my timeline.
― Alba, Friday, 9 November 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
If you mute him Twitter just replaces him with Dan Hodges iirc
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
But another annoying aspect is making some blatant clickbait that is 100% guaranteed to be endorsed by scores of other political hacks and guaranteed to harvest loads of US outrage, job done etc .. but then people saying "very brave take here.. etc
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
in fact using Trump for zillions of clicks is probably about the most cowardly and pathetic thing a political hack could do tbh. She's another one who makes me feel genuinely queasy that I'm paying her fucking wages!
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
Acosta may well have been pushy, greedy, but I thought his persistent point about Trump's slack use of the word 'invasion' was a rare instance of a journalist publicly holding this careless, ceaseless liar to some kind of account and by doing so, insisting that words matter - which is surely at the heart of journalism.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 9 November 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
Sorry but wtf? How is she in the right about this at all? He didn’t “mistouch” the intern at all - that’s the Infowars edit that’s shamefully been circulated by the White House and which no journalist should be given the oxygen of attention. Like oh no Acosta asked too many questions and that’s just terrible, but this whole flimsy thing is resting on the false edit and that’s acceptable and not terrifying?
Also, fuck the BBC and their commitment to platforming fascists.
― gyac, Friday, 9 November 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
what I got from her awful piece was the sense that she is so used to working for the bbc that she has forgot to even affect an air of journalistic ethics, its all a game to her and attacking some hack for not being respectful and cowed enough in the White House is utter shit - and her conduct is problematic enough in the uk, but it seems even more ghastly in the context of a KKK friendly US prez.
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
iow, how that boot taste
― i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
It's almost as if professional ethics is frequently a (self-internalised) justification for power worship
― Tsugumo Alanshearer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
just saying again that whilst the United Nations rapporteur is currently investigating why there is such extreme poverty in the UK, here are some of the News items the bbc considered more newsworthy :
How Tom Hardy saved bedtime
'Staunch to the end' PM notes to WW1 fallen
UK economy grows at fastest rate since 2016 (tldr version - lots of functional alcoholics buying shitloads of cans and bigscreen tv's from Brighthouse during world cup)
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
Nowt to say. Nowt you can say.
― brokenshire (jed_), Friday, 9 November 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link
that's the "editorial" decision they made on the BMJ paper on PIP deaths as well. Some stuff is actually news you know?
― calzino, Friday, 9 November 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link
There is this, but curiously it's classified as a Tyne and Wear story:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-46130355
Compare with this Guardian writeup with video, map, timeline of Alston's visits to different cities in the UK etc:https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/08/life-on-the-poverty-frontline-un-turns-its-gaze-on-uk
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 November 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link
Oh, I know, cal. It's absolutely infuriating. Crossed wires.
― brokenshire (jed_), Friday, 9 November 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link
no worries jed
I didn't find that one on a bbc search of "UN Rappatorteurs UK", just some World Service programs about conditions in other parts of the world, but they've buried it in regional news. Congrats BBC!
― calzino, Saturday, 10 November 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
I more clearly meant "there is nothing I can say that can suitably express my anger and powerlessness about that".
― brokenshire (jed_), Saturday, 10 November 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
Thanks for those links, Tracer...
Mr Alston, whose work focuses on extreme poverty and human rights, said foodbanks play "a really crucial role... that real safety net so that people don't quite starve ".
― brokenshire (jed_), Saturday, 10 November 2018 00:30 (five years ago) link
got to cling on to that first world status, much more important than a triple a rating - just keep 'em in that sweet spot where they don't quite starve!
But seriously I have had a few conversations recently about multiple people who have died in the last 5 years, a mixture of vulnerable people and people with other underlying drug/alcohol or mental health problems. Now all the maisonette flats around the corner mostly contain cramped families rather than the "disappeared". One person I used to know had got help with his alcohol/mental health problems and was found dead in his flat, and this goes back to depression caused by his brother's recent suicide. I'd love to talk to this rapporteur guy myself.
One of saddest things I saw in recent years was a very autism-spectrum type guy I used to regularly speak to, telling me he couldn't keep his dog anymore because they had stopped his dole, never seen him since:(
― calzino, Saturday, 10 November 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link
since when has the BBC been outright tory propaganda. felt different ten, fifteen years ago
― imago, Monday, 3 December 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link
The question isn't whether or not it's Tory propaganda and more how it relates to the government at the time. The BBC got a lot of shit for being too pro-Blair but it held New Labour to account a lot more successfully than it did either the coalition or the post-2015 governments.
One reason for this is, I suspect, the fact that the BBC is under existential threat from the Tories and is well aware of that and unwilling to antagonise them too much.
(Question Time etc are produced by external providers who are expected to abide by BBC impartiality rules but do so largely unsuccessfully - it's more fringe right groups that benefit than the Tories per se.)
The BBC *as a whole* feels like it's improved in the last couple of years even as its news and current affairs output had got markedly worse.
― Matt DC, Monday, 3 December 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link
Unfortunately news and current affairs are the largest part of the argument for its continued existence
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
when I was young and stupid (as opposed to old) I used to think Brian Walden really hated the tories with his contemptuous "I put it to you" line of aggressive questioning. But amazingly he is still alive and a recent wiki check showed he had run as Labour candidate in the 60's and Thatcher had some notion that the BBC hated them, apparently. But most startlingly there was something floating about on google about how it was Walden who persuaded Cameron + Osborne to do the ConDem rather than attempt a minority gov.
― calzino, Monday, 3 December 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
He was a Labour MP from 1964 to 1977.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link
i mainly associate him with Weekend World which was on ITV tbf
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link
I've killed so many brain cells since then, it feels like a century ago.
― calzino, Monday, 3 December 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link
but I used to watch him through Sunday hangovers, back then. For reason I thought he was beeb.
― calzino, Monday, 3 December 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link
i had to double check
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
now i've just got "Nantucket Sleighride" stuck in my head
"Nantucket Sleighride" amiritedudes? *high fives and misses*
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link
LOL frazzled minds think alike.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link
Andrew Marr doesn't rock this hard
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
The BBC *as a whole* feels like it's improved in the last couple of years
No Clarkson (who ten years ago was hosting the corp's most popular entertainment show and using that to take potshots at the then PM while being best pals with his successor) helps
― nashwan, Monday, 3 December 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link