pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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That review says Davey Von Bohlen explained, of the reunion, that:

...one thing that brought them together was the fear of losing “that emotional attachment where we feel like we could be defined for the rest of our musical lives by this one thing that happened in our teenage years.”

Actually he said almost the exact opposite:

This summer is 15 years since we broke up, and we’ve lost that emotional attachment where we feel like we could be defined for the rest of our musical lives by this one thing that happened in our teenage years.

A poor review. And, how one could write that review without mentioning Nation of Ulysses is beyond me...

Freeze Instr., Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

I knew, after reading these posts, that this was an Ian Cohen review before I even clicked on it. Dude is consistently the worst Pitchfork writer, which is really saying something

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 26 August 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

he’s one of my favs for sure

flopson, Sunday, 26 August 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

I have no trouble believing that Cohen is a bottom-tier writer across the scope of his career, but I will just say in his favor that whenever I’m looking for a quick chuckle the Pitchfork review of Method Man’s “The Meth Lab” is one of my potential destinations

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 27 August 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

very cool interview with the band Girlpool on October, esp. since they basically seem to not even like or drink beer

Your manager says that y'all in general are not big beer-drinkers. Tell me a little bit about your relationship with beer.

Tucker: Harmony used to drink beer when we were teenagers, but then it just kind of didn't settle quite well, right, Harmony?

Tividad: Yeah, it makes me have gas, frankly.

Tucker: If I'm outside doing a thing [where] I'm sweating and it’s sunny out, I'm gonna have a cold beer—and it fucking feels amazing. I'll have a beer for enjoyment, but not to get fucked up.

Tividad: I feel the same way as Cleo.

Tell me about what kind of beers you like to have during these situations of casual drinking?

Tividad: I just don't have that strong a preferences honestly. I had a Modelo recently.

Tucker: You know, we would take whatever. I honestly [prefer] a nice vodka soda with lemon and mint.

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

haha

niels, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

https://media.giphy.com/media/dt1W1NHhWxzvW/giphy.gif

omar little, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

Tell me a little bit about your relationship with chips.

geoffreyess, Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

yeah that piece blew. just do a normal interview. i would love to read an october interview with someone who's sober or just talks about grapefruit juice or something

flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

The sunday reviews are good not bad: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/milton-nascimento-lo-borges-clube-da-esquina/

Frederik B, Sunday, 2 September 2018 06:52 (five years ago) link

Agreed, that piece is very good.

(Only quibble is this dangling participle, which an editor should have caught: Born in Rio in 1942, Nascimento’s mom died when he was still an infant...)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 2 September 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

“Suspirium” Is Thom Yorke’s Best Solo Track In Years
Best New Track

I might be worng but when was his last solo track?

niels, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 08:49 (five years ago) link

he put a solo album out in 2014 that was extremely eh. new song is also extremely eh

flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

Tomorrow's Modern Boxes was definitely hit and miss. The misses were enh, but the hits (mostly the last third of the album) were really good.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Eh, his solo stuff usually doesn't do it for me but this one hits the spot.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link

The Eraser is classic imo, not a bad song on there. Would pick it over several Radiohead records.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/news/serial-season-3-announced-new-trailer-shared-listen/

Let this be the death of the “shared” concept.

President Keyes, Thursday, 6 September 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/yves-tumor-safe-in-the-hands-of-love/

Hey look a 9.1!

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 7 September 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

first 9+ of the year, i'm excited to give it a listen

austinb, Friday, 7 September 2018 08:10 (five years ago) link

Wow, that's true, that's the first 9+ they've given this year. That's pretty unusual.

Frederik B, Friday, 7 September 2018 08:16 (five years ago) link

yeah, i noticed that they hadn't given one a few weeks back—it's been a weird year for both big ticket releases and ambitious indie darling albums, i guess.

austinb, Friday, 7 September 2018 08:40 (five years ago) link

Looks like they're doing a new "Best Albums of the 1980s" list next week. Let's see how it will compare with the 2002 one.

MarkoP, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

oh hell yeah i contributed to that and i am extremely psyched to see how it came out

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link

prob gonna be 200 albums, like the 60s list

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

The fact that they haven't called makes me think Kliché and Anne Linnet are getting robbed :(

Frederik B, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

the most important question: where will The Blue Nile's Hats place?

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

yeah that's one i'm really wondering about

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

Hats belong on top

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

The Yves Tumor review should win some kind of award for creating an imaginary album in my mind that was far different, and far more awesome, than the actual recorded music under review.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 8 September 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

Maybe the reviewer has never bought a spray painted cassette in an edition of 50 from shlubby midwestern noise dudes?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 8 September 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

“How to Drink Your Way Through OctFest” really lights up a front page dominated by stories about the tragic death of an addict...

(I know beer/liquor ads have long accompanied rock 'n roll editorial, but there’s something deeply sour about the October thing for me)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 04:06 (five years ago) link

it’s gross for sure

the late great, Monday, 10 September 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link

it’s gross for sure

the late great, Monday, 10 September 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link

Maybe the fact that it’s not promoting a specific brand (like traditional advertising) is what makes it seem worse... it’s just generally promoting booze consumption as a “lifestyle” for young people, tied in w/music.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link

yeah that shit sucks

flappy bird, Monday, 10 September 2018 04:49 (five years ago) link

Zen Arcade = 68
Let It Be = 35

This is totally unacceptable

flappy bird, Monday, 10 September 2018 05:48 (five years ago) link

Big Science at 22 and the #1 are good

flappy bird, Monday, 10 September 2018 05:49 (five years ago) link

#1 Toto IV

billstevejim, Monday, 10 September 2018 05:53 (five years ago) link

extremely dull & canonical list that nobody needed, obv

imago, Monday, 10 September 2018 06:08 (five years ago) link

It's the same as before but woker.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 September 2018 06:45 (five years ago) link

Diamond Life clocking in at #10 — above both the queen is dead and closer — is a level of poptimism I did not expect. Good list though. World at Echo at #25 is awesome

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 10 September 2018 07:13 (five years ago) link

Instead of substituting genuinely unexpected, lesser sung LPs for bloated hipster heavyweights, they just tell you it's alright to like the stuff you already knew about. It's an injunction to go from the familiar to the familiar – truly inspiring.

pomenitul, Monday, 10 September 2018 07:36 (five years ago) link

as usual the most interesting part of the list is the higher numbers and those are what make the list worthwhile

ufo, Monday, 10 September 2018 07:56 (five years ago) link

You guys should be shot into the sun for your misuse of “woke”

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 10 September 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link

Anita Baker way, way too low

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 10 September 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link

lots of stuff to explore in the 200-100s

niels, Monday, 10 September 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

These lists aren't made for the geeks. I learned a lot from the original list sixteen years ago, when I was a teen, and if this can help young people today then I also think it's pretty significant that they are getting a canon where Janet Jackson and Sade are in the top ten.

On the 2002 list there is one solo woman (Kate Bush at 92) and one women-only band (ESG at 84). It's not as if women are banned (Sonic Youth and Talking Heads are at 1 and 2) but the first clearly female-fronted band is Young Marble Giants at 63 (unless I'm missing something). The new list is not more 'woke', the old list was hopelessly slanted.

Frederik B, Monday, 10 September 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link

extremely dull & canonical list that nobody needed, obv


Nah, it’s better than that. Personally I’m fucking over HOT TAKE contrarian lists. Think this did a good job of mixing up the canon, seemed balanced. There are like 50 instances where I disagreed with placements, but whatever. Solid list.

circa1916, Monday, 10 September 2018 10:20 (five years ago) link

I'm sure this list is much more rounded than the original one, but the choices are still dullsville

Even within single artists, they've gone for the safe choice p much every time

Anyway, who cares really - we've always known that the fucking cunts treat us like pricks

imago, Monday, 10 September 2018 10:56 (five years ago) link


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