Pavement:Classic or Dud

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I quite like "Date With Ikea"

― Paul Ponzi, Monday, August 27, 2018

The sparkle of that twelve-string intro never fails to grab me. Then SS sings the non-chorus and I've flopped out of his arms.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 August 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

The actress? She's always breaking things.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 27 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

btc has the benefit of not having 'hit the plane down'

fair

mookieproof, Monday, 27 August 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

I quite like the SS songs too!

. (Michael B), Monday, 27 August 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

uh... Watery, Domestic still remains the best 12 minutes of music ever released.

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion)

Gary Young at his best. The entire Watery, Domestic recording session is insane:

Texas Never Whispers
Frontwards
Feed em to the Lions (Linden)
Shoot the Singer (1 Sick Verse)
Sue Me Jack
So Stark (You're A Skyscraper)
Greenlander

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 27 August 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

yeah I listened to “watery” a few days ago and it’s still as great as it was the first time. their best release maybe

k3vin k., Monday, 27 August 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

def the best bang for your buck. SE/CR/WZ all have more quantity of quality, but also so-so spots. WD is perfect, but only for 4 tracks.

alpine static, Monday, 27 August 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

also, Albert R. Broccoli otm xxpost

alpine static, Monday, 27 August 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

Where are Malkmus' tax returns?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link

The way the river bends, etc.

Yep, still a beaut. If I had any time (or sense of where the issue is now) I'd dig out the copy of YOUR FLESH magazine that wrongly slammed this EP.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link

watery domestic is so so excellent

canary christ (stevie), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link

I was listening yesterday and noticed for the first time that the twangy bass (or guitar?) that opens Greenlander also shows up toward the end of Shoot The Singer

a roomba of one's own (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Great snapshot of pre-S&E Pavement -- summer 1991 show at the Middle East just popped up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Cd56fHNFg

city worker, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link

some good gary young content here

devvvine, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link

I saw a teenager this summer at a grocery store in my small, middle-of-nowhere home town wearing a red S&E t-shirt and it pleased me greatly.

joygoat, Friday, 26 October 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

Wonder where he found it. I don’t get why ‘90s indie bands haven’t been able to cash in on the retro T-shirt craze... I feel like there should be Sebadoh tees at Hot Topic.

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link

(Also — I didn’t know that Bob was playing with them that early on.)

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

It's been so long since I listened to Pavement that when I was watching a bit of that I heard a song I half recognized and thought, hmm, where do I know that song from? And then instantly realized, oh yeah, it's a Pavement song.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

google search shows that red s&e t shirts are available on the walmart website.

wmlynch, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

!!

(...it says "Out of Stock," but still!)

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

BandTees.com has a few classic designs (Another Pavement t-shirt that has been upgraded to a super soft fitted cotton t-shirt for an extremely comfortable and great fitting official Pavement experience.

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

over on walmart.com

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/ab6b861c-51c5-4ebe-b7ab-630f38fd7d0c_1.e41e3a84c7f155a757b2ed966c4aad5d.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

The Velvet Underground pose with their old pal Nico in Warhol-inspired color bar portraits on the front of this soft black t-shirt. Pairs nicely with shiny boots of leather. 100% cotton.

tylerw, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

boooootleg band t-shirts are p easy to find

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

i mean it's also on amazon and pavement's merch site, but yeah walmart.

wmlynch, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

MorrisP Industries only supports officially licensed merchandise from which a 25% cut goes directly to Gerard Cosloy's bank acct.

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

I saw them in Glasgow a month prior to that video and I'm racking my brains trying to remember if Bob was in the band then.

MaresNest, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

I had a tan-colored tee with "Pavement" in cross stitch style, it was ugly af and I LIKED it

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link

related to the t shirt discussion:

http://oi68.tinypic.com/2cwqzkm.jpg

wmlynch, Friday, 26 October 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

I think I had the sunny side up tee as well, but in blue

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Friday, 26 October 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

is that a britpop dude?

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Friday, 26 October 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

I would love a tee w/just the Wowee Zowee cover art

greta van vliet (morrisp), Saturday, 27 October 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link

"Pavement asked me to paint their album cover for Wowee Zowee and it was absolutely incredible to have that happen because I'm so into their music. A few days later, I painted a bunch of stuff on paper for them to pick out which one they wanted. They had been doing all sorts of funny scribbly drawings and stuff on their previous album covers so I thought they were just gonna take my art and kind of chop it up and make a collage out of it like their other albums. But they basically just straightforwardly took one of the things that I painted and then they stuck the words on top of it. I painted about 20 or 30 different covers. I can't remember. A bunch of stuff. One of our friends, she was very into Middle Eastern studies and she eventually started teaching Arabic literature at college. But she was a friend of Stephen's. There was a Middle East vibe in the air. Everybody ate falafels like crazy back then. I just thought, 'I'll try some of this out,' with an old-time, far-away Middle Eastern look. Back then Middle Eastern was less specific then it is now. Twenty years ago it was just exotic."

huh, no mention of this:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51UaDPzpj1L.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 October 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

Well the painting is totally unrelated

Οὖτις, Saturday, 27 October 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

Yeah he even says “they stuck the words on top of it.”

greta van vliet (morrisp), Saturday, 27 October 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link

That self portrait of Sarah Lucas will be hot forever.

I went to Steve Keene's workspace once and he had loads and loads of paintings in bins that he was just giving away. We got a bunch of wood cuttings that oddly looked like me and my dude and gave him a couple of twenties.

Yerac, Saturday, 27 October 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link

rip if you were being serious, there's more info on the photo here: fried eggs

wmlynch, Saturday, 27 October 2018 03:42 (five years ago) link

that live set was awesome.

wmlynch, Saturday, 27 October 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link

thanks. i am either unfamilar or have forgotten about sarah lucas but i enjoyed learning about her

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Saturday, 27 October 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link

I went to Steve Keene's workspace once and he had loads and loads of paintings in bins that he was just giving away. We got a bunch of wood cuttings that oddly looked like me and my dude and gave him a couple of twenties.

About ten years ago I bought a set of five randomly selected paintings off his website for like $25, and he sent me twelve, all on wood. One of them was of Pavement at the Hollywood Bowl.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

Just saw Mark on the street, he looked like he was showing some hipster reporter around the neighborhood, gesturing here and there

calstars, Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Any headz out there know what "Sebadope" was?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SdaZgok0IH0/U5BwPPJVdQI/AAAAAAAAGCc/yFxaaJWPjQ0/s1600/img299.jpg

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link

(I guess same q for "Living Excuse"...)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8-jXaABfHY

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link

Ah yeah, I know that from "Stuff Up the Cracks"...

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link

Def. a 1993 show... I saw them 2x on that leg, I'll try to find the recording!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:10 (five years ago) link

Sweet!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

Apparently "Living Excuse" was a working title for "Cut Yr Hair" from my source...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link

"Sleep" is Fillmore Jive

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link

"MT" = In The Mouth A Des(s)ert

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link

"Loretta's II" = "Elevate Me Later"

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link


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