Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

...one celebrity with an opinion about a movie can stoke the bad faith of twitter dorks into a frothing nerdgasm.

been avoiding the whole thing. I don't take Ethan Hawke especially seriously to begin with but it doesn't sound like he said anything especially controversial.

LOGAN is a good test case though. It's not MCU, it has a couple of moments and Patrick Stewart but it's mostly crap, and hey, the rest of Mangold's more adult-targeted "serious" work is also mostly crap!

idk I get that less "adult targeted films" get made by the big studios because the superhero stuff is where the money is. it doesn't seem so off the mark. but i hardly ever go see anything that isn't the stuff of which the Dr. appears to disapprove. end of my discussion is there's room in this viewer's brain for a lot of different kinds of movies that do all kinds of different things to it, and comparing them doesn't tell you much about them

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:05 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I get that one person can like a diversity of films, sure, I do. I truly enjoyed some MCU films and seen almost all Bresson films. However if you live outside a major metropolitan area, one that cannot sustain having a selection of art houses cinema or the presence of decent film festivals, well you probably know how hard it is to get to see some films. I'm lucky here in Montreal because we get to see a wider selection of french film but virtue of the language but boy it's a hunt still.

I won't say anything new to anyone on this thread but basically, the distribution game is rigged and has been rigged for a long time. While I'm not asking for the good ole CanCon documentary I produced to be in 2000 theaters across the continent, more antitrust laws like preventing blockbuying would give us a bit of that breathing room we need to live of our profession. So when those super hero movies are shitty, like Fantastic Four, and they are busts but still cover 5% of the screen time in the entirety of Quebec for 3 weeks and my friends and I have to scrap some sessions at the art house who is forever on the verge of closing down then yeah, I'm mad at the very existence of some of these films. I fully stand by Hawke's idea that when you get to make big movie at least put some love in it and abide by a standard of quality to ensure the film will be good. I haven't seen Logan so I can't vouch for it, but surely you can think of another shitty blockbuster, or another superhero blockbuster that can replace it.

another fair and reasonable point

Remember when Ethan Hawke "wrote" a novel?

Marvel has apparently secured studio space in the UK and rumors are bubbling up that a Captain Britain movie may be underway. Which I find potentially very exciting (particularly if it might lead to an Excalibur film down the road). Less exciting are the rumors that it is to be helmed by Guy Ritchie. Hmm.

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Like this idea, which strangely had never occurred to me before, could (in the right hands) be my most favored MCU project yet. The Moore and Delano runs on Captain Britain and then up through the end of Davis's solo run on Excalibur are some of my favorite comics ever.

I re-watched Spider-Man: Homecoming last night (second time seeing it) and I think -- to the extent that ranking these things matters, which is "not at all" -- it's a top five out of all of these. Skips the origin story, ties in well into the other movies, a villain with understandable motives and who isn't the victim of some experiment gone wrong, ace performances from all involved. And a lot happens in it! But it never feels overstuffed. Like so many of these characters, Peter is often a victim not of the bad guys, but his own overconfidence and hubris -- but it's an understandable, youthful hubris. He's 15, and this is the one thing he's really good at aside from school, and it's much more rewarding; why not concentrate on it, and why not try to go big time? That's how kids think!

The whole segment from when Peter first shows up at Liz's house and Keaton answers the door, to when he gets out of the car in front of the school, is so great. A lot of good "eye acting" from Holland and Keaton, and I love that it's Liz's mention of the "Stark internship" that gets her father suspicious.

Like this idea, which strangely had never occurred to me before, could (in the right hands) be my most favored MCU project yet. The Moore and Delano runs on Captain Britain and then up through the end of Davis's solo run on Excalibur are some of my favorite comics ever.

how could you forget

"is there a name or a phrase for or anything much written about that distinctly British CREEPY VIBE prevalent in TV shows and movies of the '60s/'70s? (e.g. The Prisoner, Sapphire and Steel, Baker-era"

aye, it just slips right off the tongue right enough

actually you know who'd be a good captain britain is henry cavill - a giant side of beef who's not too smart and is kind of an asshole is a much better fit for cavill's vibe than superman

That is precisely who a large number of internet denizens are pushing for, apparently. Careful what you wish for...

it's a top five out of all of these

the last 30-40 mins felt really draggy to me

there's a weird buildup to the homecoming then it only gets five minutes screentime

overall it's great though. it's overlong but it's a great hangout movie so length = more time with fun characters

karl urban would be a great captain britain

or wolverine

or almost any male superhero tbh

karl urban cannot be allowed to do anything which would prevent him from being judge dredd again

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Ha:

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karl urban would be a great captain britain

or wolverine

or almost any male superhero tbh

He's already had a sizable role in the MCU, it'd be a bit weird if they recast him as someone else. Tho they did do that with Alfre Woodard, but her earlier role was fairly minor.

Nah just give him multiple roles like Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks

Chris Evans is on film as the Human Torch and Captain America. They could probably start recasting the same actor in different roles and by now few would notice. Especially someone like Urban, who does a pretty good job disappearing. That is, that the same guy that can play Bones in Star Trek can play various heavies in the MCU or otherwise is pretty impressive. Acting!

Fantastic Four =/= MCU! At least not before now. Since the Fox acquisition I expect a watchable MCU FF movie at some point down the road.

just have brad bird direct, he's already done a couple of convincing practice runs

Do we have a Karl Urban thread?

do we need one?

Dude

look i’ll happily participate with endless posts about dredd if u wanna start one

(as long as it’s called ‘URBAN HYMNS: a thread of karl urban appreciation’)

Oh hey so I slept on it way too long but I'm happy to report (halfway through the season thus far) that Cloak and Dagger is actually better than some of the Netflix shows. So, y'know, check it out.

'cloak and dagger: better than iron fist!' raves ilxor dot com poster old lunch

Consistent, focused, compelling characters, well-acted, etc. It might actually help that there isn't a capital-v Villain per se (the big bads are a crooked cop and Roxxon, basically).

and no finn jones!

I thought season 2 of Iron Fist was much improved (I mean, how could it not be), but this is still at least maybe three times as good.

I watched the Cloak & Dagger pilot and was immediately put off by "Hey, attempted rape as a character motivation/plot point AGAIN" thing. I'm so sick of it. It's what made me not watch Bates Motel after seeing it happen to Vera Farmiga in the pilot.

Writers, there are other ways to push your female protagonists to their crisis points without raping them. See if you can think of some!

Shang-Chi film announced. Figured he would eventually pop up among the Netflix crew but, uh, it sound like all them shits are being cancelled.

Surprising choice but if they channel the Moench/Gulacy years I'm all for it. Presumably any Sax Rohmer characters would be renamed.

I figure Avengers 4 will have a title announced any time now, so the promotion machine can get going. 1st trailer at xmas movies, etc.

trailer is on Wednesday. There's a new Captain Marvel trailer tonight

oh nice x2

omg what exciting no-stakes fanservice merchandising tie-in will they reveal next

*checks stopwatch*

you’re slowing down, shakey, must try harder

Looking forward to the Shakey origin story/training montage.

Many shots of a trainer hustling his buns off while shakes stands on the sidelines rolling his eyes and then walks directly up to the trainer and emphatically rolls his eyes to make sure the gesture wasn't somehow overlooked.

irl lol

v glad no one knows who Lucrecia Martel is so she won't have to endure fanboy screeching over this

https://www.worldofreel.com/2018/12/director-lucrecia-martel-was-approached.html

The first thing I asked them was maybe if they could change the special effects because there’s so many laser lights… I find them horrible.

I don't know what she's talking about but otm

She’s certainly right about the music as well

totally otm on the music, but afaik there's no special gender bias operating wrt marvel handling the action sequences. that's how they do things.