Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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Virgil’s campaign was successful:

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LET'S GO @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE!
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— Touchstone Books (@TouchstoneBooks) August 29, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

The bookstore appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pOY0ea01Y

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

is amber not involved in the book?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

nope, no amber in the book

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

is she the cappadonna of chapo?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

New episode with Stav rules

flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

why is it not surprising the woman involved just happens to be left off

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

not that I'm a chapo expert but wasn't she in the UK a lot during the time period they were writing the book?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

i don't listen to chapo that often anymore - occasionally catch it when my gf is listening - but amber is on it a lot less often than used to be the case i feel? i mean she is the host who has more of a life outside of the show than the others (adjunct prof, writer, activist) while like, felix just games and works out. unlikely that she was excluded

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah this was mentioned in one of the book interviews - the day job kept her too busy to write

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

why is it not surprising the woman involved just happens to be left off

this is only funny because Amber is easily the most #problematic chapo person

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

stav’s story about his grandfather in today’s episode is incredible btw

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

Amber also mentioned she’s working on her own book, to which her trips to the UK were related

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

if it winds up including "wreckers" in the title or synopsis I'm going to stay far, far away

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

Hot couch guys might be my favorite Chapo bit ever

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

Amber's book is about labour organizing history, I think.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

Man, Mother Jones going thru some rough times to run Kevin Drum’s shitty column.

So there you have it. These are both proposals for old-school socialism, with the government (or “the workers”) controlling the means of production and doling out money equitably to everyone who needs it. The details are different, and Bruenig at least pretends to have a path for getting there, but you’re not going to like either one if you have a soft spot in your heart for private enterprise.

Which I do. Government-run enterprises are almost inevitably run badly and government controlled paychecks are almost inevitably corrupt beyond all imagining. Still, would that be worse than the immense amount of wealth and income inequality that we put up with today? That requires a bit of thought.

No, wait. It doesn’t. It would be worse. A lot worse. I think I’ll stick with social democracy aka regulated capitalism, thankyouverymuch. Until the robots show up, of course, at which point we might as well just let them run everything

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

the first part where they're talking about Beto O'Rourke and Ted Cruz is great because it literally just sounds like they're using the Stavbot, he has almost nothing to say beyond "whoa," "hell yeah," "nice," "noo, fuck no dude," "oh for real?" and his various cackles. But Stav sorta carries the hot couch bit. Great ep

flappy bird, Friday, 31 August 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

Strasserism: Actually Good by Amber A'lee Frost

Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 31 August 2018 11:54 (five years ago) link

That’s more of a Red Scare take, innit

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

Just arrived. Breaking out the good specs to see what the commotion's about. @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE @willmenaker pic.twitter.com/kzf9VvL5LN

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) August 31, 2018

Chapo: Dr Morbius approved

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

oh my God

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 August 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

Haha

Chapo Trap House Wikipedia article edited anonymously from US House of Representatives https://t.co/RKhk702k6l pic.twitter.com/6cXTqsV2Yz

— congress-edits (@congressedits) August 31, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link

A positive review:

Of course, fans of Chapo Trap House will find much to like in The Chapo Guide to Revolution. What about the uninitiated? Well, a book like this demands a certain level of tolerance for vulgarity and alike. Those turned off by masturbation jokes or by passages praising the stunning perfection of the albino twins from the second Matrix film are unlikely to stick with this volume for long.

http://artsfuse.org/173403/book-review-the-chapo-guide-to-revolution-laughing-at-catastrophe/

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

Politico review otm

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link

Yes I am aware you disagree

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

Not liking them or the book is fine but you sure you want to co sign all that other stuff in there

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

I already have it tattooed on my back

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link

I don’t view Scher as a “Politico” writer btw. He’s a freelancer with multiple podcasts and a host of dumb takes who happens to share much of my view about the Chapo a holes

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link

I’m also a union member and I don’t really view us as the best path forward for human relations

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link

Sorry yr union sucks

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link

Also the r/neoliberal subreddit can't be v happy with their erasure in this piece

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link

Have you lived through the past three presidents and managed to still believe that Republicans and Democrats share a single corporatist overlord?

yes

Do you casually use “neoliberal” as an insult, even though nobody has spotted a neoliberal in the wild since Gary Hart’s 1984 presidential campaign?

Loaded question

Do you enjoy history lectures, but only when they are delivered by sarcastic, self-righteous people who conveniently omit anything that conflicts with their ideological worldview?

No

Well then do I have the book for you!

nice

flappy bird, Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:40 (five years ago) link

My union remark came across more dickish than I meant it to. What industry are you in PK, and what is it about yr union that disinclines you towards them

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link

My exposure to this crew is limited and the bits I’ve picked up make me think I’d find this entire enterprise insufferable but I want to know if I’m wrong. All immediate contact says smug young Brooklyn beardo dude nerds who live on Twitter and get their kicks from like clever room-of-mirrors in-jokes, think everyone else is dumb, have read some books (let me tell you), are expert leftists but just don’t ~give a fuuuuck~ about decorum and know how the world works and should be at 30.

Like that is probably only a partly true and shallow read, surely really good if you dig into it etc., but there’s so much right up front that’s hard to hurdle.

circa1916, Saturday, 1 September 2018 05:46 (five years ago) link

maybe that Politico writer shoulda taken it to 4 presidents

ClintonsAtTrumpWedding.jpg

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 September 2018 05:56 (five years ago) link

Guy in my social circle lives in the Weird Twitter Rad Left hole (for real, obsessive) and it’s hard to disassociate him from anything that might be worthwhile from that corner. Insufferable at parties. Sometimes shows up with ppl he introduces as Twitter Friends. Took me a while to figure out who they reminded me of but it’s totally (sorry) a Fallon SNL bit:

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-bloater-brothers-at-shooters/n11478

circa1916, Saturday, 1 September 2018 06:31 (five years ago) link

All immediate contact says smug young Brooklyn beardo dude nerds who live on Twitter

Yes.

and get their kicks from like clever room-of-mirrors in-jokes

Mostly Felix but his riffing is more online ephemera than Twitter these days.
Matt is firmly Twitter in-jokes, though.

think everyone else is dumb, have read some books (let me tell you)

Not really?

are expert leftists but just don’t ~give a fuuuuck~ about decorum and know how the world works and should be at 30

Only 1 of them (the 1 who is not a beardo) would claim expert leftist status.

The decorum thing is overblown - basically what you see on the John McCain RIP thread or Gawker or basically anywhere else that isn't MSNBC/CNN.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 1 September 2018 06:48 (five years ago) link

Like most stereotypes there are elements of truth, as well as elements that don't really fit. Felix and Matt for instance are huge softies if you read/hear any solo interview, and for all the talk of their ignorance, the show has covered a lot of topics their critics just don't care about (most recently the prison strike)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

enjoyed the hot couch and dvd menu riffs. I went to a big state u and the campus I lived on had an entire low-rise on-campus apartment project for hot couch guys.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 3 September 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

I enjoyed Matt's refusal to believe Will had ever encountered a hot couch guy.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 3 September 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

wtf, is the concept of HCG just a way to be snobby towards the lumpenproletariat?

Dan I., Monday, 3 September 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

not a class phenomenon, hot couches exist at every socioeconomic strata

flappy bird, Monday, 3 September 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

I searched for “hot couch guy” and got porn

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 3 September 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

wtf, is the concept of HCG just a way to be snobby towards the lumpenproletariat?

How on earth would that be your takeaway from a group of people recounting their favorite hot couch guys?

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 3 September 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

yes the segment was very affectionate

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 3 September 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

there probably aren't, like, wealthy hot couch guys, but otherwise yeah I think it exists as a phenomenon all the way from working class to college-educated professional class.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 3 September 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

I dunno, Richard Branson seems like a billionaire hot couch guy but the couch is a chaise on an island.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 3 September 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

there probably aren't, like, wealthy hot couch guys, but otherwise yeah I think it exists as a phenomenon all the way from working class to college-educated professional class.


Trust me there are

flappy bird, Monday, 3 September 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link


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