the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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For the uninitiated, how much of a centrist dad is Izzard?

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

Self-described Blairite in the past, backed heavily by the anti-Corbyn factions within the party but much less vocal than a lot of people in criticising Corbyn. He talks a good game about being a bridge between the different wings and probably wins some respect from the left on that basis.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

I voted for Willsman and the rest of the Momentum slate very early doors and without any due diligence.

Yeah, me too.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

SV on Izzard seems fair, he seems oblivious to inequality as a structural or economic issue rather than just people being nicer to each other, i.e. centrist af

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

Yes, he’s twee rather than cynical- which is arguably preferable even if it leaves you more or less in the same place.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

but weirdly centrists like that get v radical v quickly when they engage with people who do believe that nothing will change until you change the economic base

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

for someone who is allegedly a comedian, he absolutely talks like a politician.

calzino, Monday, 3 September 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

angrily demanding an iteration of the status quo = essence of politician

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

unless we live in the best of all possible worlds, my bad

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 September 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

Thrilled to say we are four minutes into politics live and we have our first Emily Thornberry eye roll. pic.twitter.com/r6EeRnkRr3

— Richard Morris (@imrichardmorris) September 3, 2018

nashwan, Monday, 3 September 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

For the uninitiated, how much of a centrist dad is Izzard?

All I know is we wouldn't be leaving the EU if it wasn't for this cunt and Geldof (slight exaggeartion... or is it?)

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

Tonight I was talking to the only friend of mine who voted Brexit, and did so from a left wing perspective, and now he's like, THIS MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS!!!! I regret to say he did use the phrase A People's Vote at one point :(

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

I've had it in for Izzard since the 90's now. Funnily enough it was an old acquaintance of mine who is the 1st cousin of another great Edinburgh fringe regular/prolific author/absolutely hilarious stand-up of our era, Dominic Holland, who kept playing this insufferable Izzard video when we were stoned. Watching Antonescu's death by firing squad on weed, dying of septicaemia, getting eaten alive by a komodo>>>>>watching a 90's Izzard video on weed.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:13 (five years ago) link

We regret to inform you that A People's Vote is Coming Home.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link

it's letting people vote that has got us into this mess!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link

wait is that confirmed

imago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:27 (five years ago) link

these nobheads might get more support if they hadn't adopted such an obnoxious name

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

there is no fucking way this government will agree to it

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:29 (five years ago) link

I think even the Tory moderates who currently worry about UKIP entryism must know this option might not end well for their party.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:41 (five years ago) link

so far these "tory rebels" have been whipped into line every time, and when push comes to shove they will put party first. I presume a People's Vote needs these fuckers to actually live up to their name for once!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 09:53 (five years ago) link

the punchline on this thread of outraged tweets is chefkiss.jpg

THREAD: Has Jeremy Corbyn ever been to Auschwitz? It’s a mystery I can’t solve. He once said he had. 20 May 2008, Westminster Hall: 1/ pic.twitter.com/6tmXQlGfuu

— Eylon Levy (@EylonALevy) September 3, 2018

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

i don't know which one you're talking about because threading is kind of broken

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

this one, after seven tweets of steadily-mounting anger about why corbyn isn't falling over himself to wear a visit to auschwitz like body armour against accusations of anti-semitism

UPDATE: A Labour party spokesperson now confirms to i24NEWS that Jeremy Corbyn visited Auschwitz in 2008.

— Eylon Levy (@EylonALevy) September 3, 2018

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

amazing

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

has jeremy corbyn ever been to auschwitz? it's a mystery i can't solve

*three and a half hours pass*

i've solved the mystery - he has

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

"i am outraged that this politician isn't doing the thing politicians always do, which is using a visit to Auschwitz to PROVE they CANNOT be anti-semitic, even though politicians should NEVER do that... oh wait he must be LYING then... oh fuck, he isn't, he was there... guess he's not using it as an argument for not being anti-semitic... which is ok? help I'm stuck nevertheless amirite fellas?"

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

he scraped the internet

there was nothing

story of my life

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

he pinned the first tweet of that thread too lmao

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

yeah but David Irving visited auschwitz as well, eh? makes u think!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

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mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

Yesterday, I visited Terezin Memorial - a World War II concentration camp and former Jewish ghetto.

Never forget pic.twitter.com/AkWbBQj3L5

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 4, 2016

He’s been to more than one.

suzy, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

I hear NEC adopts "IHRA in full with all examples". It agrees following additional interpretation: "this does not in any way undermine the freedom of expression on Israel and the rights of Palestinians. We re-invite organisations to engage in consultation on the Code of Conduct"

— Robert Peston (@Peston) September 4, 2018

Cue endless, bitter arguments about how it should be applied in practice.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

Cue the British media going even harder against Corbyn and trying their best to blame him or connect him with every IHRA-designated example of anti-Semitism they can uncover - they will be working day and night on this.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

Yep, I think you can expect formal complaints against MPs supporting BDS in the future, for example. Which will then kick off another argument about Labour not enforcing the rules properly when they are dismissed.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

aaaand as if by magic i turn on the radio and once again the Sunday Sport's Tony Livesey is going hard at Jenny Manson about the issue

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 41% (+1)
CON: 37% (-1)
UKIP: 7% (+4)
LDEM: 6% (-4)
GRN: 2% (-)

via @Survation, 31 Aug - 01 Sep
Chgs. w/ 07 Jul

Link: https://t.co/pLg0c3snOL

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 4, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

41% of the uk: raging anti-semites

my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

I don't think the antisemitism angle is a winner so I'm happy to see corbyn's critics run with it as long as possible

ogmor, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

LibDem result is hilarious but I guess within margins of error might be nothing. You'd think if you were mad keen on starting a new centrist party you'd have a look at how the existing one is doing.

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

Good to see, despite the supposed easing of the hostile environment policy, you’re still never too young to have your passport revoked and get stranded in a foreign country.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boy-passport-home-office-belgium-holiday-blocked-mother-a8522211.html

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

and these craven cunts wonder why they are dying party.. sickening.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

was listening to an R4 report on an adult who got stranded somewhere in the Caribbean in the same manner. Some wanker from the home office wished him gl and advised him to not speak in an English accent if possible, because that makes you a target for criminals.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

Wads of extremely timely anti-Corbyn/anti-Labour stuff in this We Are British Jews programme on BBC2.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

The fact that May's home office policies are still leading to massive injustice and real human suffering but the public seem not to care at all... this does not fill me with hope about the country.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

tbf to the public it seems to get a tiny fraction of the media coverage that Labour antisemites are getting

fuck giving a bear beer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

Emily Maitlis, despite her best efforts, disappointed to find Alf Dubs criticizing Margaret Hodge and Jonathan Sacks.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

And interrupting Rachel Shabi at every reply.

<3 Lord Dubs.

suzy, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

when the BBC just think they can slot a coin up someones arse and press the button, and it doesn't do what they wanted it to, is always a rare treat. Hodge is an abysmal human being and her "legitimate sense of entitlement over immigrants" spiel back in the day must have been a big inspiration to Kinnock jr.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

😂😂
Must watch video... go @liamyoung pic.twitter.com/mNbjVMwt3t

— Jeremy Corbyn for PM (@JeremyCorbyn4PM) September 5, 2018

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

he's still completely shook from the humiliation of that bbc doc. His very own "We're alright" moment, to haunt him for the rest of his pointless life!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link


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