Things you were shockingly old when you learned

Jambalaya is similar to Gumbo except it doesn't contain a thickener.

Lima beans are repulsive and my primary objection to Peru then. and peru has so much awesome acceptable food. no comment on cuy.

Because i could not get it.

denim originated in Nîmes, France i.e. "de Nîmes"

:o

a blue-dyed version of a similar fabric was made in Italy and distributed from Genoa; the French name for Genoa is "Gênes".... i.e. bleu de Gênes.. "blue jeans"

still today when you walk around France workmen wear blue trousers/overalls (though it is fairly bright blue rather than dark indigo)

What timescale was this? If you search for "Japanese boro" you'll find lots of pics of indigo dyed cotton from the 19th century (boro is actually the name of the patchwork technique they use for combining the scraps to make a complete piece but I was struck by the similarity to denim when I saw some examples a few years ago)

(Also: wikipedia points out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungaree_(fabric) which almost certainly won't hyperlink correctly)

Elsewhere, today's guardian defines 'stan' as coming from the Eminem song and not south park as I'd imagined.

holy hell tracer thanks

koogs yeah, none of that is to suggest a hierarchy of authenticity, just that i'd never known the etymology of those words before and certainly never imagined that it was French

I got a twofer today.

The woman on cans of Sweetheart Stout is Venetia Stevenson, alibi girlfriend of both Tab Hunter and Anthony Perkins, married to Russ Tamblyn and Don Everley, and whose daughter was married to Axl Rose.

She was selected for the can by a member of the brewery family on work experience between getting his degree and choosing a career path. That career was politics and George Younger went on to be Defence Secretary and Scottish Secretary in a Thatcher cabinet.

Nice.

I always suspected she wasn't actually from Alloa tbf.

yeah, i knew the 'de nime' thing (maybe from QI?) but the genoa / jeans thing was new.

and the boro is different, i think, in that it's indigo cotton, looks very similar from a distance, but jeans fabric is woven differently, it's a twill, with diagonal stripes.

weaving is fascinating, i'd love to learn more about it.

Clarence White's real name was Clarence LeBlanc and his parents were French Canadians.

Is Big Black a pun on Steve Albini's surname translating as little white?

Woah!

thread just keeps bringing it, love these.

A tiny bit of white spirit can remove the gunk from stickers on cd cases/books etc

CD cases yes, but exercise caution with books because it can take printed colour right off too.

I use a white vinegar solution for books

When I worked at a record store we used goo gone for removing stickers from cd cases. You can also use it on hardwood floors if there is adhesive stuck there as well.

I always used lighter fluid.
Have heard that coconut oil works but not tried it

xxxp the full fabric name was “serge de Nîmes”

Former child actor Charlie Korsmo from "Dick Tracy" and "Hook" is now a lawyer and teaches law right down the street from me at Case Western Reserve University.

https://law.case.edu/Our-School/Faculty-Staff/Meet-Our-Faculty/Faculty-Detail/id/997

Whoa he really still looks a lot like he did as a kid!

The sax solo by King Curtis in "Yakety Yak" by the Coasters was the inspiration for "Yakety Sax" (aka Benny Hill theme) by Boots Randolph.

I got a twofer today.

The woman on cans of Sweetheart Stout is Venetia Stevenson, alibi girlfriend of both Tab Hunter and Anthony Perkins, married to Russ Tamblyn and Don Everley, and whose daughter was married to Axl Rose.

She was selected for the can by a member of the brewery family on work experience between getting his degree and choosing a career path. That career was politics and George Younger went on to be Defence Secretary and Scottish Secretary in a Thatcher cabinet.

― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:15 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was just thinking about sweetheart stout today for some reason. i seem to remember it being very bad and that I've never seen anyone order one apart from myself to try it and an old lady once at a function

"Throwing Muses were formed in 1983 by Kristin Hersh and her stepsister Tanya Donelly,"

How is it that I love this band but never knew this

That is a huge suprise to me to but looking at Wiki seems that they didn't become step-sisters till around 1990.

Woah, curveball.

Here's one: I have it sorted NOW, but for a long time I was tripped up by this group:

Ronnie Van Zant
Steven Van Zandt
Johnny Van Zant
Townes Van Zandt

...sometimes leaking into Stevie Ray Vaughn or just plain absurdities like Van Cliburn / Van Morrison.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/cards/12573.jpg

"Throwing Muses were formed in 1983 by Kristin Hersh and her stepsister Tanya Donelly,"

How is it that I love this band but never knew this

Yet I don't love that band and I feel like everyone always knew this?!?!?

Yeah I knew this, but I'm a big TM/Hersh fan. They'd been friends even before K's mom married T's dad as well, iirc.

I thought there was shared blood so it was half sister not step sister so that's new to me.

Is the correct term for somebody coming from Michigan a MichiganDer, hadn't heard it before i was watching Monday Night's Chris Hayes show. Would have just gone with Michiganer or something similar.

Michigander is correct

And the feminine form is Michigoose of course.

People from Manitoba are correctly called Manitoboggans.

I used to hear Michiganian a lot more when I was a kid but Michigander seems to have won out

Mishegoss, iirc?

whats sauce for the mishegoss is sauce for the michegander

The actor who played Admiral Piett in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Kenneth Colley, also played Jesus in his one scene in Monty Python's Life of Brian.

Myanmar is a new name for Burma. Only found that out in the Last Week Tonight from last week.

Then later saw some text written on a handout sheet sitting in a holder on the corridor of a place i started a course in that looked a lot like the text used during the show. So wondering if there si a major Myanmar diaspora in ireland or if there are similarly looking texts across Asia. I heard that Japanese borrowed its pictograms from China so wondered if others had done anything similar.

Koreans used Chinese pictograms but was difficult for the working classes to learn, so the phonetic Korean writing system Hangul was invented in the 15th Century, reputedly by King Sejong. Took a while to catch on due to pressure from the elites, didn't want the proles actually learning stuff iirc. It really is remarkably simple to learn though, you can get the basics down in an hour or so.

Learned just now: Martha Plimpton is Keith Carradine’s daughter.

Coati Mundi of Kid Creole & The Coconuts is named after Coatimundi, a South American raccoon.

Is there a tribute band called Mission of Myanmar yet?

this flag:

https://www.theflagshop.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/a/hawaii-flag-std.jpg

I thought suede was synthetic leather until a suspicion popped into my head while I was listening to the new Suede album a few days ago

[Bloodsports is] a very Suede title. Typically evocative and strangely perverse. Tell me how it came about and what it means?

Brett Anderson: It's about lust, chase, the endless carnal game of love. The title came up very early. It was almost the first thing and it seemed to sum up in a cheeky, cynical way the game of love, the bloody game of love. It's not to be taken literally. I'm not a barbarian. I don't go foxhunting or badger baiting. I was slightly worried that people might assume it was pro-bloodsports but obviously it's a metaphor. I'm still vegetarian.

https://i.imgur.com/WMFZDy4.png

Via the Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you thread...

I never noticed that Bros were so named because they were brothers. I just thought the name was a meaningless random syllable.

Oh for the days when bros was a meaningless random syllable.

wondering whether the pronunciation of that band name may have drifted from the original rhymes-with-toss to rhymes-with-toes, ie seen as more of a plural of "bro" than shortening of "brothers"?