guild aesthetics tier list
A tier: selesnya, orzhov, rakdosB tier: golgari, simic, azorius, dimir, gruulC tier: izzet, boros
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link
Trophy currently getting snapped up at $20 a pop
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
it's a large set rare cmon
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
2 color too
this isn't a bigger deal than abrupt decay which was like 5-8 bucks during its standard run iirc
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
stil sad about Mt. Gox
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
http://mythicspoiler.com/grn/cards/guildsummit.jpg
i hope this is a fun card to build around in draft, but it looks like it might be a clunky trap. maybe a sideboard card for a control match up when your deck already wants gates.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
ionize is clean
district guide is a candidate for my favorite card in the set
art in this set is standing out a little more than usual too
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
3u draw 2 instant with jump-start - better than hiero illumination? is amonkhet even in standard anymore? probably overall better than glimmer was too, esp in a world without gearhulk
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
amonkhet was never in standard
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
but yeah that's obv the glimmer equivalent going forward
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
still hilarious to me that after rotation the standard ban list is going to consist of "the second best red 3/3 for 3"
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
based on the 2 spoiled so far, the new guildmages are a little sad compared to their predecessors
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
they're more old-school guildmages
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
gates instead of basics in every booster and an explosive vegetation that also gets gates. this set is going to be so good for both draft and sealed.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link
knight of autumn is unreal
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link
i still had harmonic sliver in my modern deck a few years ago, how far we've come
this cycle of AABB uncommons all seem very good, the tension between getting those out on 4/5 lands vs ppl wanting to play 4/5 colour decks is going to be really interesting i think. everyone is going to want gates, which will slow the format by at least a turn on its own. will also be very interesting to see the common 1-3 drops in red and white, figure out how strong a gateless aggro deck might be.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
yeah i assume the idea behind those is to have a payoff for playing a 2 color deck that's not accessible to the guildgate abusers
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
glad they acknowledged the issue i had with the last ravnica go around esp gatecrash where with 5 guilds and 8 drafters, 2 people would always come away with much tighter decks, the solution being to push more people into 3+ colors
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link
I'm really enjoying the pvd/sam black/mike sigrist podcasts, I'm not a podcast person at all and it's def the first magic podcast where I feel like it's worth it to listen to every episode
― iatee, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
gerry t's podcast is the only one i feel like that about
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
it's obv not as relevant if you don't play a lot of constructed though
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
yeah I like gerry t but don't play enough standard to care
― iatee, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
i've caught pro points once or twice and it is good, PV and sam in particular are smart, articulate, interesting dudes. i listen to the first couple of episodes of lord of limited after a new set comes out, those guys are very good at quickly nailing down a few key things about a new draft format in a way pre-LSV LR used to be.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 September 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
I'll check that one out. LR has always been kind of wack, they have a pretty narrow minded approach to the point where in certain formats it's been easy to identify the LR listeners just by how they draft and play
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
man these spoilers are really making me wanna get back into Magic Online
― frogbs, Friday, 14 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
i went on my account the other day and bought playsets of glacial fortress and friends...
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
i was playing a lot of live poker this summer and came to really enjoy both pro points and gam podcasts, as a person who previously never listened to podcasts
most standard stuff is really cheap rn on mtgo
― (° . ° )― (Lamp), Friday, 14 September 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link
I've been playing standard on arena and enjoying it, it's not super competitive compared to mtgo but I've grown to like the arena software and I think that mtgo straight up won't exist in 3 years
― iatee, Friday, 14 September 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
online poker pretty much took over all my MTGO time
is now a good time to sell off ? my account has a ton of play points and a decent collection worth maybe 500-600 tix or so
― frogbs, Friday, 14 September 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
I don't think there's an immediate urgency, but who knows
― iatee, Friday, 14 September 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
I took the introduction of Brawl to be an acknowledgement that older cards wouldn't be making it on to Arena anytime soon, so I would guess mtgo has a little longer horizon than that, but they can't keep them running in parallel for too long. I wouldn't be surprised if by the fall set next year new limited formats aren't available on mtgo anymore. I think it's very likely to die in stages.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 September 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link
mtgo is a necessary practice tool for competitive play and i wld be very surprised if it phased out anytime w/in the next three years in any way. its also p much the only way i play magic so i wld be sad to lose it, although its probably not going to be around forever
― (° . ° )― (Lamp), Friday, 14 September 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
yeah i don't think mtgo is going anywhere soon
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link
they will condense event offerings long before they discontinue so that'll be the early indicator
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
So what's the best prerelease guild from a value perspective?
I think Dimir will get me the most cards I need if I want to continue playing standard control decks, but Golgari might have the most raw card value because of Trophy and Vraska.
Thoughts?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 24 September 2018 04:05 (five years ago) link
they all seem roughly even to me. but yeah golgari if you want to fish for the overpriced card and then rip off some kid in a trade if you hit on it
― ciderpress, Monday, 24 September 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link
Lol, ok, wasn't looking to rip off any kids
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 24 September 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link
like all ravnica sets once people actually start playing the dual lands will become the most valuable cards other than a couple mythics that are hard to predict
― ciderpress, Monday, 24 September 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
True, that's also been a consideration of mine as I imagine some guild pacts would have shocks. I have playsets of Temple Garden and Sacred Foundry, but need the other 3, especially Watery Grave.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 24 September 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
mtg arena open beta starts today, with the final account wipe
I'll probably mess around a bit but save all my resources for a future standard deck
― ciderpress, Thursday, 27 September 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
Teferi getting oracled, still busted.
I'm strongly thinking I need a 4th copy despite the absurd price. Still waffling over whether I should jump on Nexus.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 28 September 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
well the errata makes it (ever so slightly) better
― frogbs, Friday, 28 September 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
Yeah, being forced to untap lands was a pain, it makes sense.
I just find it funny that was the part they felt they needed to fix.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 28 September 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
4-0'd my prerelease with disinformation campaign. card feels really busted for an uncommon, like the raw advantage it gives you once you've got an engine going is planeswalker-esque
― iatee, Monday, 1 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
Nightveil Sprite + Disinformation Campaign was pretty busted for me.
Dipping my toes back into Arena now that the new set is there and everything's been wiped. Might see what GRN sealed is like on there.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 1 October 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
i went 3-1 with golgari, it was solid but super boring compared to the first 2 ravnica iterations, they replaced the shoveling stuff into your graveyard with incremental trading and sacrificing, doesn't really feel any different than a generic core set GB strategy. pretty disappointing. there's also no raise dead effect at common in the golgari set which is ???
meanwhile dimir has like 50 surveil cards and lots of payoffs for it
more interested in standard than limited for this one
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link
It would be cool if standard turbo surveil works as a deck.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 05:52 (five years ago) link
hard for it to be turbo when it's 1 or 2 on most cards, past standard dredge decks needed to put 3-4 cards in the gy per enabler spell to work properly
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:16 (five years ago) link
imo surveil, at least how it has been implemented in this set, is too strong and dimir is the clear strongest guild as a result. mostly i think the problem is that it doesn't have a cost - it's put on cards that could easily be, or that we've actually seen recently, at the same rate without it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link