the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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taste is literally cultural

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

NV, I have moved back to the UK after spending whole adulthood abroad and the one great thing that's struck me is the bizarre relationship to food, it is a source of daily wonder, one day I will make a go of explaining why it's so strange if I can.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

I realize that the cultural nature of relationships to food doesn't mean that the UK's isn't *particularly* weird or depressing, having thought about it

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

We'd need to pick out oafish stuff like this Graun made-up story and the other things the croissant thread was meant to point at from the higher picture, maybe

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

higher? could've sworn I typed "bigger"

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

eating fresh food + that's in season + knowing what food is in season at that season is some extremely bourgeois and expensive endeavor in the UK in the way that it just isn't in lots of other countries. the uk is local shops in v poor areas that don't have a single actual vegetable for sale (this covers a lot of people and these are people who can actually afford to buy food for their families) and people eating quinoa and goji berries and raw juice at the other end (hardly anyone but gets talked about a lot) the middle ground is harrassed people with little time to do anything other than make ready meals. hardly anyone just has a normal healthy relationship to freshly available foods/kknows what food are in season or what goes with what.

we're not alone in this (dutch food for e.g. is probably even worse) but even yr average pole or german can discuss certain cuts of meat or sausages in the way that most brits are just clueless about.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

Quinoa's nice

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

Rural people are really attuned to seasonality, though - and I think people are much more clued up about that than they were twenty years back (with the caveat that many of the people into it are middle-class consumers).

suzy, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

Corbyn is the first politician to enthuse my dad. He wouldn’t touch quinoa with a barge pole.

Very much a jewelled rice with saffron man. https://t.co/T160DKpeZd

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) September 11, 2018

the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

Bulgur is much nicer though tbh

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

I always have lots of dry bulgur in my stores <<< posh as fuck!

calzino, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

i like how you can cook bulgur by just soaking it with hot water

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmz4uv1XgAEwgln.jpg

after Lucy Powell's incoherent rambling about online closed groups "normalising extremism" and a need for CCP style internet censorship in the UK, it seems she's a member of some herself.

calzino, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

quite a selection of MPs putting forward that bill: lucy powell, nicky morgan, stella creasy, david lammy, luciana berger, jess phillips, jacob rees-mogg, anna soubry

ogmor, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:22 (five years ago) link

Online echo chambers are normalising and allowing extremist views to go viral unchallenged. These views are spread as the cheap thrill of racking up Facebook likes drives behaviour and reinforces a binary worldview. Some people are being groomed unwittingly as unacceptable language is treated as the norm. Others have a more sinister motive.

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:24 (five years ago) link

do you condemn garu g

mark s, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link

ludicrous, nonsensical, pretend, unreal, bollocks gay House music

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:26 (five years ago) link

expert callback

imago, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link

this is a declaration of war imo

ogmor, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link

time for ilx to chan up

duplicitously Euroseptic tankie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:32 (five years ago) link

the rot set in the day we permabanned mcternan

mark s, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:34 (five years ago) link

It’s not censorship. Our newspapers and broadcasters are held to high standards, without censorship, social media publishers should be held to similar standards.

imagine posting this!

calzino, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:35 (five years ago) link

Is Lucy Powell a Towel or a Pole Powell?

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:42 (five years ago) link

The TV interview with the alleged Salisbury poisoners is quite something. The short version is they came on holiday to “see the 132m spire”, it was too snowy so they went back to London, they went back to Salisbury the next day but it was still snowy so they decided to go back to Moscow.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 13 September 2018 10:43 (five years ago) link

well obv it's a much bigger draw than York Minster or Lincoln Cathedral if you are an in-spired type of church spotter!

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:02 (five years ago) link

bloody hell, Salisbury Cathedral is actually a big bastard!

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link

not so skeptical about their story now are u

it was still snowy so they decided to go back to Moscow.

― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), 13. september 2018 12:43 (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is always how I act on holidays as well. 'Ugh, still bad weather, let's go home'

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link

what if this is all a plot by the salisbury tourist board to increase footfall to the cathedral

all the most beautiful and tallest church spires are all in continental Europe. They had to take drastic action!

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link

brb gonna bombard the visitwiltshire phone line with agitated questions about why they're working with the russian secret services

'Ugh, still bad weather, let's go home'

...people do this all the time!

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

'the weather sucks, let's just do a murder with some nerve agent and then call it a day'

I don't really know what to think about this until I've heard Alex Salmond's take on RT.

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:32 (five years ago) link

The road from Salisbury to Stonehenge was indeed blocked by snow on 3 and 4 March. That much of their story is indeed true, despite the mocking. Two failed attempts to get to Stonehenge blocked by snow is perfectly feasible.https://t.co/WB4hu5oESC

— Craig Murray (@CraigMurrayOrg) September 13, 2018


Thousands take to twitter to explain that Salisbury Cathedral isn't famous at all and overseas visitors never come to see it https://t.co/QZK9rxuG5y

— Craig Murray (@CraigMurrayOrg) September 13, 2018

lool!

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link

ffs not that clown Craig Murray

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link

blah blah the missile gap but gotta say putin's closed the shitposting gap and then some: oh no it's snowy, let's go back to moscow is quality work

mark s, Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link

was there a point when Murray went full foil helmet or has he always been like that and i've only noticed this year?

every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:21 (five years ago) link

mark otm, the paucity of their alibi has to be deliberate trolling

every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link

he seems like a very skeptical type who's gone full Galloway in no time at all! Maybe he has been poisoned by some brainwashing nerve agent.

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:24 (five years ago) link

he hasn't let that "look! they're in exactly the same place at exactly the same time!" self-clown slow him down at all

every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link

He's often not bad at highlighting gaps in official information - the way he fills those gaps with speculation is usually hilarious, though. As with David Shayler, i suspect being that close to some actual conspiracies has had an unfortunate effect on his ability to weigh up the probability of other ones.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link

and i've read enough John Le Carre to perma-wonder which side he's actually performing for

every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:34 (five years ago) link

you start thinking there can't be any conspiracies, when the majority of people disseminating them are all clowns and fules!

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link

exactly, it's Tweets within Tweets

every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

tbfttl he did uncover a lot of important stuff both in Uzbekistan and on Alisher Usmanov, though I guess nobody particularly caring when he was right probably did not help.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

it's these extremist echo chambers that have done him in, Lucy Powell otm!

calzino, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link


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