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performance art?

the late great, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

like, I'm sorry. I really am. I genuinely don't understand how any of this happened, and if I say that a lot it's because I really, truly, genuinely, don't understand. if I understood I wouldn't say that I didn't.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

Katherine, as I said on another thread, about 95% of the mentions I see of you on ILX are wholly positive and appreciative. My guess is that the majority of the posters in here who are currently being critical are also appreciative of your presence here. You’re not flipping a switch that makes people hate you or have a lifetime grudge against you. Most of the regular posters have conversational tics that probably annoy or frustrate others, but people like talking with them, as they like talking with you! I don’t want to relitigate what constitutes hostility or banter or disagreement, I just wish you wouldn’t always assume the worst about your status here.

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

Katherine, as I said on another thread, about 95% of the mentions I see of you on ILX are wholly positive and appreciative. My guess is that the majority of the posters in here who are currently being critical are also appreciative of your presence here. You’re not flipping a switch that makes people hate you or have a lifetime grudge against you. Most of the regular posters have conversational tics that probably annoy or frustrate others, but people like talking with them, as they like talking with you! I don’t want to relitigate what constitutes hostility or banter or disagreement, I just wish you wouldn’t always assume the worst about your status here.

― JoeStork, Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:11 PM (fifty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, about 95% of the people in this thread seem not to be wholly positive or appreciative. one person outright said I should leave. I don't understand how to square that with this

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

i said you should leave because you might be happier not being here

the late great, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link

like it seems to cause you a lot of distress, so why not disengage? that’s what i do when ilx upsets me

the late great, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

because even if I left or "disengaged" the opinions formed would still remain and they would not go away, and I would still remember them.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:16 (five years ago) link

I think you should leave too. But it's not because I don't like you. Seems like it'd be best for you if you did.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:16 (five years ago) link

(also, me leaving seems like a far more drastic option than people not being hostile)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link

Katherine im trying to discuss the various performances in pygmalion and my fair lady and also the rules of 25 in the lads thread and it would be nice if you wanted to join whoever is in there to do so

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

I don't understand what's going on in that thread but I don't trust that it isn't mocking me

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

we're teaching you to ilx proper ;)

imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

I don't understand what's going on in that thread but I don't trust that it isn't mocking me

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:19 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont believe that you believe that but my offer is genuine and it stands

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

My point is that people being critical of one aspect of your presence here, on one thread, doesn’t mean they hate you, or no longer find your contributions worthwhile, and you should give both yourself and ilx in general a little credit.

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

My point is that people being critical of one aspect of your presence here, on one thread, doesn’t mean they hate you, or no longer find your contributions worthwhile, and you should give both yourself and ilx in general a little credit.

― JoeStork, Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:26 PM (three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this goes beyond merely "being critical" is the thing

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

Some quick detective work reveals that “katherine otm” is a lot more fuckin fruitful an ilx search than “JoeStork otm”

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

I mean, counterweigh that against the past couple hours

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

to the best of my knowledge you don't have people showing you that level of hostility so I would trade places in an instant

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

JoeDork morelike!

imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

man fuck joestork for reals

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

joe you can still come into the lads thread tho

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:32 (five years ago) link

owned

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:32 (five years ago) link

half an hour of xposts:

again, why is the burden on me to leave a community where I enjoy discussing music and other topics, when I haven't done anything to be hostile to others

if you just talk about music and other topics and not about how one or two ppl perceive you, you can enjoy discussing music and other topics

nerds on here like talking about music, and you have interesting perspectives that are enjoyable to read

imago is accurate that he spent literal years here blowing up unrelated threads into referenda on his own posting style and board personality. absolutely nobody* hates him for talking about music he likes and films he watches and food he eats and birds he spots, despite literal years of ppl telling him he was making discussion impossible when he wanted to talk about whether people hated him or not.

everyone** here understands what it's like to feel beleaguered in an online argument and to inaccurately believe that it matters if they don't stay involved and make their case repeatedly. when ppl advise dropping a bugbear, or avoiding a thread, or going afk and sitting in the park and looking at squirrels, it's because they think you will be happier and have a better time here generally, and wish that for you, not because they want you to shut up and leave.


*guarantee not valid where legally prohibited

** this one too

Gibing The Amethyst (sic), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link

^end of discussion

imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link

actually do you hate me these days just kidding just kidding

but rea-

imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link

I mean at this point it's more like how 20 people perceive me. and that's just the people posting, god knows how the people who aren't posting perceive me, but I doubt it's favorable given the one-sidedness of this

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:39 (five years ago) link

I like you, so stick around. Everyone else is being way more butthurt than you.

El Tomboto, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link

One time i ate a hamster

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link

I don't believe it

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:45 (five years ago) link

A power move

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:45 (five years ago) link

I don't believe they bought that zoo

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

why did you eat a hamster

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

man's gotta eat

j., Friday, 21 September 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link

I Love Cricetinae

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

It was you

i just like to say kenyon my hamster died today and your song through the wire made me feel like it wornt the end of the hamster lfe more like the beginning off a hole new one .
Maybe i mist the point here but thats what this song means to me just getting buy taking the good with the bad pain in my case i just like to say if u could here me now your song really helped me forget my worries and like i was made that nothing mattered for those 4:32 mins/sec of the song.
id like to say ....................
his name was rony
rony from my cage
his name is rony the hamster who is the greates hamster a little boy/man women could have

this my friends is the passion .....
and this rony is goodbye

― oliver honder, Friday, April 2, 2004 9:56 AM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

ive changed my mind aboue joestork hes really stepped up

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:54 (five years ago) link

thx

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link

Seems ok but I don’t know how anyone could climb back from “Joe Dork.” If I were him I’d change schools

Trϵϵship, Friday, 21 September 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

Strong words from Pϵϵship

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link

do me next

Evan, Friday, 21 September 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link

how many ilxors does it take to change a lightbulb?

just one: Joe'sTorque

haha fuck you JoeStork

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 September 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link

I’m only one man

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 02:16 (five years ago) link

I think it’s time we all shut up and let some average joes talk

Gibing The Amethyst (sic), Friday, 21 September 2018 02:16 (five years ago) link

xp, much less than one now

JoeStork, Friday, 21 September 2018 02:17 (five years ago) link

do me next

― Evan, Thursday, September 20, 2018 7:13 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ilxors who almost make u wanna go homo

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

When I was banned from ILX I wrote a long document to my computer that was a thorough summary of what happened and what things were supposed to mean when I posted them and individual replies to posts while highlighting all the 2-sided mistakes and misunderstandings along the way. I had a lot of butthurt jabs at several people that only made sense in the grand scheme of things that could only be clarified by reading my long detailed letter.

Nearly 3 years later I rejoined ILX. I deleted that document in the past year. I knew it would be too cringey to read before I deleted it.

Nowadays I keep my ILX personality relatively vanilla and that makes me happy. Whenever drama happens on here I do my best to butt out.

What saved me in the end was my ability to fogetaboutit. I don’t even know who had I had beef with or what even happened. Also my ILX insecurities have waned a bit since I’ve heavy filtered my impulses. I’ve always picture my ILX personality as a narcissistic Nobody but I feel like I’m less narcissistic now. The only times I feel like I wasn’t a nobody was when I chatted with ILXors in DJ chat rooms where we tooks turns queueing up music, when I played online MtG against a couple people here, when someone traveling the country expressed willingness to meet me, and lastly a brief couple of times I had email exchanges. Which is to say that I, without interaction with people outside these threads or without positive feedback, still feel that I’m perceived as a Nobody. But at least I feel like I’m a Nobody that people don’t hate anymore. I don’t hate anyone here and I do picture Katherine as someone that is very sensitive (without even knowing the current beef) but that doesn’t have to be a bad thing. The moral is that forgetting makes things better and also maybe a lot of other people are nobodys too because I don’t really know any of them. Talking to ILXors outside of these threads really helps on that front even if I haven’t done it in forever.

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 21 September 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

Oh, and while airing out my dirty laundry I should mention that at one point I somewhat idolized a few ILXors for their popularity or because they are/were cool. I knew I could never live up to that image because I have no connections and I assume thay had many. Since I’m antisocial in real life and I hardly ever get jelly it must mean that I really hold other posters (and ILX in general) in high regard for me to have felt that way; ILXors are not Nobodys ipso facto they are ILXors.

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 21 September 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

flops u dont need to idolize me but u can buy my book if yre hellbent on it

😎

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link

Is there a ILGlossary for all usernames someone has ever used here?

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 21 September 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link

Yes but u need access to 77

F# A# (∞), Friday, 21 September 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link


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