the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

Calls for a Renters Union are excellent if long overdue.

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I meant nationalise in that post obv.

only a complete arsehole could object to Landlord reforms right now, they've been taking the piss for way too long now.

How many tory MPs are landlords again?

Also we can freak Liz Truss out again by demanding better support for pet-owning tenants.

shit, imagine if Fabricant was yr landlord!

the horror in Pienaar's voice earlier, these centrists really do hate everything that is good.

hypothetical landlord t/s: michael fabricunt vs fred west

All (water utility) staff will transfer on a TUPE basis in the same roles, except for senior executives and directors, whose posts will be re-advertised on dramatically reduced salaries capped by our 20:1 pay ratio policy.

bladow!

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/almost-one-in-five-mps-are-landlords

was gonna say, not just Tories

Lammy and Thornberry the two standout Labour names.

New MP Laura Pidcock has said: “I think that anyone who is a landlord should not be able to vote on legislation affecting landlords, it is a complete conflict of interest.

“The people of Grenfell Tower have had their concerns repeatedly ignored and it is part of our long history as working class people to have our concerns ignored.”

laura pidcock otm

that last landlords bill that got torpedoed was famously trying to write it in law for their properties to be fit for human habitation. Most landlords would probably say: no, my tenants are all subhuman scum anyway.

A fifth doesn't actually seem that bad, or at least wouldn't if it wasn't 87 Tories to Labour's 28 I mean fucking hell.

I remember Richard Drax being on South Today and my student housemates joking about how he looked, sounded and had the name of a comic book villain. Now 18 years later he is a landlord and a tory MP.

r4 have this awful consumer affairs program and one week they were like: lets listen to some landlord sob stories just for a bit of balance. At the end I was thinking .. cut Mao some slack, these parasites are the true enemy!

Be interesting to know how many BBC employees own BTL properties (I'm guessing quite a few)

if you don't wanna be a landlord and deal with tenants, then sell your properties before the market crashes again and laugh all the way to the bank ffs

As far as I know, McDonnell’s policy has been tried in one other comparable situation. In the early 80s, Sweden’s Social Democrats promised to give 20% of company shares to workers. Named after its architect, trade union economist Rudolf Meidner, the policy was popular with the party faithful.

But in this polite and outwardly cohesive country, it caused outright war, writes Robin Blackburn in his classic history Banking on Death: “Business leaders were intensely alarmed and spent five times more money attacking the plan than the cash laid out by all the parties on the 1982 election. The privately-owned press ran a sustained and vigorous campaign … under assault, support for the scheme ebbed and the Social Democrat leaders believed that it was prudent greatly to dilute the scheme…” By the mid-90s, the policy was dead.

Chakrabortty is predicting there will be a serious establishment onslaught on McDonnell's "Class War" and maybe more so than what we have seen yet!

It's not 1982.

*checks calendar*

he's right, folks

Labour's leadership is the sweetest agony atm

Foolishly glanced at part of the editorial from the odious CIty AM this morning and they were howling in horror at Labour's latest proposals against poor defenceless bankers and bad businesses as usual.

lol love city am

What's the deal with the centre left press fawning over McDonnell all of a sudden? It's been going on for a few weeks now and seems to have come out of nowhere.

isn't there a theory he's plotting to overthrow corbs?

I don't know if the stress of intriguing against a friend and taking on the leadership at the time when that position will be taking some serious flak would be great for someone who had a heart attack only 3 years ago.

they’ve been taken in by his emollient bank manager routine

Yet confusingly he's the one consistently saying remain isn't an option LIFESOCONFUSING.GIF

thread on the labour leave fringe meeting:

Austin Mitchell says our “poor prime minister” was “viciously attacked” by the EU last week. #Lab2018 pic.twitter.com/amtIprcfvX

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) September 24, 2018

can't stand that old cunt!

people who wish were dead but aren't.

Kate Hoey says the reason so many young people support staying in the EU is because they have been indoctrinated by Remain-supporting university lecturers. #lab2018

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) September 24, 2018

people who wish were look dead but aren't.

Every time Norman Tebbit shows up I find myself torn between a jaded "of course he's talking shit, he's Norman Tebbit" and an indignant "you've got a nerve, showing up here alive and having opinions"

— Buckfast at Tiffany's (@DismalChips) September 24, 2018

He's one of those "I still believe all of those things that have been proven to be untrue"

typical bloody infowars nutter!

I haven't read what was in the Torygraph yesterday, but if Kershaw was peddling that same Nazis=left-wing claptrap as Tebbitt then he might find some of his peers are laughing at him and will never take him seriously again.

This is going to be massively all over the media. Marr, Peston, Newsnight, Channel 4, sky news, Guardian, Times, Telegraph. They’ll all be on to this. Deffo. https://t.co/YKbrHoAL33

— Michael Rosen (@MichaelRosenYes) September 24, 2018

high five, fellow antisemitic neo-fascists!

Do you think that Labour’s proposed share plan for workers is a good idea?
All Brits: 54% good, 17% bad
Labour voters: 70% good, 6% bad
Conservative voters: 39% good, 34% bad https://t.co/RsfPQAPWR3 pic.twitter.com/9bWQr4Dibt

— YouGov (@YouGov) September 24, 2018

the modesty of the proposal in the big scheme of things kinda shows up just how off-kilter our society is, can well believe a majority don't see this as rampaging National Socialism

FWIW I'm not sure that a separate fund with a capped dividend of £500 is the best way to go about this - obviously £500 is a fuck of a lot of money to a lot of people and very welcome, but it doesn't keep them (literally) invested in the performance of their company in the same way that a straightforward share issue or other mutual structure would.

lol at 39% of conservative voters being cryptosocialists, good job capitalism

not even sure if the goal is to keep workers invested in performance so much as a v tentative first step in democratizing the economy

talking speculatively here, wouldn't it be problematic for future evil Tory governments to reverse something like this, as opposed to the way the New Labour tax-credits have been cut to ribbons in the last 8 years.

not that £500 would replace some of the working benefits that have been slashed.

I haven't read what was in the Torygraph yesterday, but if Kershaw was peddling that same Nazis=left-wing claptrap as Tebbitt then he might find some of his peers are laughing at him and will never take him seriously again.

I think the article was a refutation of Kershaw, et al in the New Statesman?

wouldn't it be problematic for future evil Tory governments to reverse something

yes but it hasn't stopped them before iirc

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ah, that explains it!

I think the tory party would struggle to take ppl's shares away