the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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lol

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

I was thinking more post-Corbyn than against Corbyn, no one will run against him now.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

May's "slash corporation tax to the lowest in the G20" is a repeat of the "Singapore Model" talk from the period of her pre-election pomp. I thought they might be pressured into reversing somewhat on austerity by events and Labour's luxury Castles in the sky, but it seems they are going to double down on it.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 07:36 (five years ago) link

this is the "new thinking" among brexiters iirc i.e. singapore/Britannia unchained/etc. Really it's just an acknowledgement that no deal means the only levers they have left are those that seal the pod bay doors on their own people

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 08:16 (five years ago) link

there's me thinking these are reasonable people and they might actually be thinking about unpopular domestic policies other than the brexit clusterfuck of their making. I think this is going to be the grimmest Tory conference in history in terms of what they are offering the electorate: We might have to ration insulin, but don't worry, we'll bring the army in to burn the corpse piles and so on.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 08:26 (five years ago) link

Should probably ban the use of ‘Singapore model’ - which implies a much heavier hand in state planning and, crucially high-quality, low-cost housing for anyone who wants it - and replace it with the Wild West tbh.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 08:31 (five years ago) link

this "Singapore model" of shit food and shit weather, a rental sector with abodes not fit for human habitation, is a massive slur on Singapore.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 08:39 (five years ago) link

at least singapore's police state is a competent one ffs

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 08:43 (five years ago) link

i hear the food's nice

ogmor, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

have visited, can confirm

even the food at the zoo is good! police states work, folks

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 08:53 (five years ago) link

finally making progress on this board

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:14 (five years ago) link

control-f "gulags"

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:18 (five years ago) link

Hard to see how it can work with only lazy British proles as a workforce.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link

prole offices

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:24 (five years ago) link

for too long, our lazy british proles have been getting caned on legal highs and cheap cider

for now on, under our new sinapore model, they'll be getting the cane if they so much as try to cross the road without waiting for a green light

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:37 (five years ago) link

I think that is the full range of Priti Patel's repertoire.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link

Singapore and Hong Kong are the two most regularly cited points of comparison and they're both city states, inconcieveable that would translate to the UK and it wouldn't benefit most Leave-voting areas one bit. London and other metropolitan elitist hubs might do alright (or at least some people living there would). It's the most blatant Brexit con trick imaginable and it might be a pertinent line of attack for either Remain or Labour more generally, certainly more so than repeating "bargain basement tax haven" again and again.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

The more than ever deregulated City state of London + its crumbling, decaying provinces of no real importance, was probably not what May had in mind when she was talking about the "Singapore model" or if it was, she's even more evil than I thought and would definitely have trouble selling that vision to Hartlepool!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

good speech

nxd, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

still no pledge to scrap UC though, at this stage no consulting is necessary to find out if it is wasteful, cruel and a complete fuck up!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link

Lots of praise for the speech here.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link

The olive branch @jeremycorbyn has extended to @theresa_may could save or destroy her. Just to be clear, his offer is what some in her cabinet, and many on her benches, in Whitehall, in Brussels and in EU capitals have been mooting as a Brexit compromise that would solve both... pic.twitter.com/PrENJaQZLp

— Robert Peston (@Peston) September 26, 2018

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:17 (five years ago) link

is there a party that can, tho?

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link

unionists

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

lol i wz gearing up to post "step forward gerry adams in our* nation's hour of need"

*subject to clarification

mark s, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

cometh the hour, cometh the man

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

The Tory Brexiteers unite the politics of the 1950s with the economics of the 19th century, daydreaming about a Britannia that both rules the waves and waives the rules.

how groansome and clunky... but sort of good as well!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

Labour respects the decision of the British people in the referendum. But no one can respect the conduct of the government since that vote took place.

Lol, such a good line. Not sure I agree, but it's a good line.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

Really good speech! I wish a Danish Social Democrat would say the same things :(

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

it seems to be putting the jitters up the very ppl a strong opposition party should be scaring the shit out of, but let's be honest - he's no Gerry Adams!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

Not sure I agree

if you can find anything worthy of respect in the government's conduct since the referendum, please feel free to elaborate

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

there's only one gerry adams tbf

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

Virgin Trains

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#VTNEW Due to a fault with the signalling system between London Euston and Watford Junction all lines are blocked. Updates to follow.

Jim Waterson

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Lads just a quick heads up that you've got the whole shadow cabinet and half of Britain's journalists about to get on your network in an hour and they're all hungover and grumpy and wanting to nationalise things.

1:18 PM - Sep 26, 2018

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

nice!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

Really good speech!

The "solidarity fund" lines were so clean and simple. Good stuff.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

if you can find anything worthy of respect in the government's conduct since the referendum, please feel free to elaborate

― heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), 26. september 2018 16:19 (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, it's not that, it's more the first half of it. I really don't know enough to say what Labours strategy on Brexit should be.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

Wait... does Wes Streeting think the Winter of Discontent and the General Strike were one event? https://t.co/mR0lLJ0ADZ

— Jack Saundrs (@jack_saundrs) September 26, 2018



Lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

No one good has ever been called Wes - discuss.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

Fucking idiot. Why did these people join the Labour Party in the first place?

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

Wes Montgomery alchemises two distinctly unpromising forenames into a reputable person

imago, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

Wes Montgomery is God tbf!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

Hello, Wes Hall?

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

Maybe narrow the Wes hunt to white people

imago, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

Anderson obv

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

White Wessies could be the anthropological label for gammon!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

What, no Hoolahan? :-O

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

lol I clean forgot Anderson

imago, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

streeting aka the mcshitter > anderson

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Wes Chatham as Amos in The Expanse

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTMfSBRvfiw

counterpoint!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link


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