Yeah, there is something about the style. And it's almost like they're in some twisted competition. 'No, I'm going to be the one to write the definitive "Great man brought low by #metoo" piece'
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link
oh and that line about “there’s no support group for the accused” can you give me one (1) small break
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
stephen elliott was always a creep and i felt incredibly uncomfortable running into him at literary gatherings, but i worried that it was my own prudishness making me feel that way. going out of your way to make “KINKYYYYYY” your personal brand is a hell of a deflector
― maura, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
Harry Shearer: also dipshit
this is probably not news though
If you're designated a "sexually violent predator", does that mean you can't hang around kids and feed them Jell-O any more? #AskingForAFriend— Harry Shearer (@theharryshearer) September 25, 2018
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
that's just a (not ver good) joke; don't see the real problem there.
― akm, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link
i hate-read the stephen elliot piece and oh my god i can't believe he was disinvited from a literary panel, that must've been so hard for him
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
there are SO many horror stories about elliot and pretty much all of them echo each other, he's a major piece of shit
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
Becoming increasingly convinced that beyond the cramped/unworkable sentiments of 'why can't this older generation just die off' (which was always lame and reductive) instead I get a real sense of people absolutely unused to accepting or even imagining a world where things could be different. I don't mean in the way that predators will always find an out or an option, but so many around them or around situations or who 'heard stories' and shrugged, or who react to everything talked about with actual confusion. Reminds me, obliquely (I didn't experience this directly but I was around for a couple of examples of this) of when grad/med students have over the last couple of decades essentially protested living/work conditions and older professors or instructors took attitudes of "well I got through it, why can't you?" and/or "but that's the way the world is." Which...isn't helpful. Apply it to a lot of the reaction going on for the past calendar year -- Shearer's lame crack being just another example of it -- and it matches pretty clearly.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
this is a good piece related to Kavanaugh but also more largely it fits into this thread as well.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yearbook-male-bonding.html
― omar little, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
“no president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.”
really, he should be disqualified just for saying that
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
the thread beneath the first tweet
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
2 different men volunteering to the Judiciary Committee they think they, not Kavanaugh, were the ones who assaulted Ford. Really. https://t.co/iUIUV0ivV4— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) September 27, 2018
I... don't even know where to start with this. what the actual fuck
― Roz, Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link
like yeah, not one but TWO men would actually come forward to confess to a crime from 1982. that's TOTALLY how bad guys are caught!
― Roz, Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link
https://i.giphy.com/media/lu5LYc87R1960/200.gif
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link
And this: https://jezebel.com/kevin-spacey-sued-by-massage-therapist-for-alleged-sexu-1829413591
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 29 September 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
one thing i really get the sense of over the past couple years is the idea of reinventing the concepts of "justice" from scratch. particularly in this response of "everybody does bad things", which is just flabbergasting misdirection. yes, pretty much all straight men have at some point behaved in a sexually inappropriate manner towards a woman or multiple women, but somehow people, particularly straight men, have such profound difficulty getting the fairly simple concept that instances of wrongdoing can differ in severity. and that's not even getting into the brain-melting concept of forcing a collective notion of "forgiveness" which systemically excludes the victims of assult and abuse. gah. i understand not getting this shit because for most of my life i didn't fucking get it either, but good god how much more obvious does it have to become until enough people accept these basic facts that we can start, you know, addressing them?
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
pretty much all straight men have at some point behaved in a sexually inappropriate manner towards a woman or multiple women
I hate this kind of argument - it cant be proven (everyone will have different anecdotal experience), and it’s implication is that male heterosexuality is inherently mysogynistic
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
yeah its shit tbf rly
― Dmac TT (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
― Οὖτις
well my implication was rather that we live in a society built on male supremacy, not about the alleged inherent nature of male heterosexuality. emphasizing individual experience over the systemic social and cultural factors that drive real-world behavior is what drives exceptionalist bullshit like #notallmen. i consider denial of maleness and of male privilege to be similarly toxic as the denial of whiteness and of white privilege.
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link
the medal ceremony has been postponed indefinitely fyi
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
that's ok, i don't get any anyhow, i'm a wookiee
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link
there's an array of threads on maleness for this tangent
this story about cristiano ronaldo could be huge
http://www.spiegel.de/international/cristiano-ronaldo-kathryn-mayorga-the-woman-who-accuses-ronaldo-of-rape-a-1230634.html
― ogmor, Sunday, 30 September 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link
ugh that Ronaldo story. I knew my irrational hatred of this guy was justified.
― Roz, Sunday, 30 September 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
Thread on the CR7 story:
This is a thread about the rape allegations vs. @Cristiano: About our research @derSpiegel, about Ronaldo's reaction and a little insight into why the alleged victim Kathryn Mayorga speaks out about the case nine years later. This is the story btw: https://t.co/fwv26PhCSx 1/24— Christoph Winterbach (@derWinterbach) September 30, 2018
― groovypanda, Monday, 1 October 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link
anyone know why this story is in the sun and not the guardian?
― ogmor, Monday, 1 October 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
There was some talk on Twitter that his lawyers have come down pretty heavily on the British media with warnings over how they report this. Not sure how much truth there is in that although that thread does mention something similar.
― groovypanda, Monday, 1 October 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
This br4d k3rn fella looks like a MF w/ some dark secrets
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/ncis-new-orleans-producer-brad-kern-fired-by-cbs-1148613
― piscesx, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
― ogmor, Sunday, September 30, 2018 5:04 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
really trivial amount of coverage of this in sports press as far as i can see - i.e. covered broadly enough but not as a big headline anywhere
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
i think most Americans at least only know him as the douche in that stupid underwear commercial where he is sexually harassed
― Nhex, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
less coverage in north america, which is about the only place he isn't an A list star, is justified. not so much in europe
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
So I guess it's too late now to consider the bottle-opener possibilities.https://demandnewspaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/serie-a---juventus-v-u-s-sassuolo-2.jpg
― how's life, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link
The replies to this are predictably depressing
Whatever the legal outcome, this is awful from Juventus: pic.twitter.com/3ZDNkscTdx— Gary Lineker (@GaryLineker) October 5, 2018
― groovypanda, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link
aziz ansari can still fuck off btw. remember when he was pitching himself as mr. guy who gets ithttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/aziz-ansaris-new-standup-tour-is-a-cry-against-extreme-wokenessalso master of none was overrated rich kid wank
― maura, Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link
Master of none sucks and is gross
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
Not that anyone cares about poetry but this #MeToo issue of the Chicago Review brings together some of the best poétesses writing in English: http://chicagoreview.org/metoo/
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
“poetesses”seriously dude?
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
Thinking in French, sorry. I dislike the constant use of 'female' in English.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
just say poet like a human then
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link
But they're all women – and that's part of the point? I'm confused.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
forget it
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
Women poets would be the preferred nomenclature
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
I realise that 'poétesse' sounds odd to native English speakers. For what it's worth, I find both 'female poet' and 'woman poet' to be even odder, perhaps because I often parse them as 'a woman who happens to be a poet', whereas the French variant strikes me as 'a poet who happens to be a woman'. Anyhow, my apologies if I offended anyone.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
Master of None was good, it's disappointing he's on this trip now. Maybe all the credit for the show belongs to Alan Wang.
― akm, Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
the correct term for girl poet is 'poetette'
― akm, Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
poette
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
Perfect.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
The whole “Louie/Master of None/Atlanta” breathless praise about middlebrow TV *auteurs* reminds me of living through Arcade Fire/Decemberists
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
i feel like it's easy to fake out people and turn your perfectly decent and average show a bit prestige with the right presentation and "authorship" at the center
― omar little, Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
pomenitul most English speakers who don’t like saying “female X” because of how it sounds will say “woman X” if it needs to be made obvious these days. Female-declined nouns are deprecated in most circumstances. Women actors are just “actors” outside of Oscar categories for the most part; hardly anybody would ever say poetess or comedienne or the like unless they were being ironic. The only exception I can think of is “dominatrix”, because nobody calls a male dom a “dominator”
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link
it's dominatron, you worm
― j., Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link