the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

finally making progress on this board

control-f "gulags"

Hard to see how it can work with only lazy British proles as a workforce.

prole offices

for too long, our lazy british proles have been getting caned on legal highs and cheap cider

for now on, under our new sinapore model, they'll be getting the cane if they so much as try to cross the road without waiting for a green light

I think that is the full range of Priti Patel's repertoire.

Singapore and Hong Kong are the two most regularly cited points of comparison and they're both city states, inconcieveable that would translate to the UK and it wouldn't benefit most Leave-voting areas one bit. London and other metropolitan elitist hubs might do alright (or at least some people living there would). It's the most blatant Brexit con trick imaginable and it might be a pertinent line of attack for either Remain or Labour more generally, certainly more so than repeating "bargain basement tax haven" again and again.

The more than ever deregulated City state of London + its crumbling, decaying provinces of no real importance, was probably not what May had in mind when she was talking about the "Singapore model" or if it was, she's even more evil than I thought and would definitely have trouble selling that vision to Hartlepool!

good speech

still no pledge to scrap UC though, at this stage no consulting is necessary to find out if it is wasteful, cruel and a complete fuck up!

Lots of praise for the speech here.

The olive branch @jeremycorbyn has extended to @theresa_may could save or destroy her. Just to be clear, his offer is what some in her cabinet, and many on her benches, in Whitehall, in Brussels and in EU capitals have been mooting as a Brexit compromise that would solve both... pic.twitter.com/PrENJaQZLp

— Robert Peston (@Peston) September 26, 2018

is there a party that can, tho?

unionists

lol i wz gearing up to post "step forward gerry adams in our* nation's hour of need"

*subject to clarification

cometh the hour, cometh the man

The Tory Brexiteers unite the politics of the 1950s with the economics of the 19th century, daydreaming about a Britannia that both rules the waves and waives the rules.

how groansome and clunky... but sort of good as well!

Labour respects the decision of the British people in the referendum. But no one can respect the conduct of the government since that vote took place.

Lol, such a good line. Not sure I agree, but it's a good line.

Really good speech! I wish a Danish Social Democrat would say the same things :(

it seems to be putting the jitters up the very ppl a strong opposition party should be scaring the shit out of, but let's be honest - he's no Gerry Adams!

Not sure I agree

if you can find anything worthy of respect in the government's conduct since the referendum, please feel free to elaborate

there's only one gerry adams tbf

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nice!

Really good speech!

The "solidarity fund" lines were so clean and simple. Good stuff.

if you can find anything worthy of respect in the government's conduct since the referendum, please feel free to elaborate

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Oh, it's not that, it's more the first half of it. I really don't know enough to say what Labours strategy on Brexit should be.

Wait... does Wes Streeting think the Winter of Discontent and the General Strike were one event? https://t.co/mR0lLJ0ADZ

— Jack Saundrs (@jack_saundrs) September 26, 2018

No one good has ever been called Wes - discuss.

Fucking idiot. Why did these people join the Labour Party in the first place?

Wes Montgomery alchemises two distinctly unpromising forenames into a reputable person

Wes Montgomery is God tbf!

Hello, Wes Hall?

Maybe narrow the Wes hunt to white people

Anderson obv

White Wessies could be the anthropological label for gammon!

What, no Hoolahan? :-O

lol I clean forgot Anderson

streeting aka the mcshitter > anderson

Wes Chatham as Amos in The Expanse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTMfSBRvfiw

counterpoint!

Wes Streeting's New Nightmare

... a Labour Government.

So this happened. pic.twitter.com/Osqq7oJPnK

— Clifford Singer (@cliffordsinger) September 27, 2018

This feels significant I think - they haven't found a way to attack the employee shares thing, partly because they know it appeals to soft Tories, and they're freaking out about it. But it's also reflective of the way Brexit is completely dominating the government to the exclusion of pretty much everything else, allowing Labour to make the running and set the agenda.

given the extent to which Corbyn's critics usually misrepresent his politics, this Daniel Finkelstein piece seems like a pretty fair synopsis of Bennism?:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d37ff42a-c0d8-11e8-a932-84839f5183a4

(Finkelstein thinks it's self evidently ridiculous/sinister of course, but I don't think distort it for the most part?) (imo everything he describes sounds great, and the main problem is the likelihood that it will be substantially watered down if/when Labour actually take power)

Isn't the employee shares proposal what used to called, gulp, popular capitalism?

they'll be giving Billy Smart's Circus a run for their money next week going by recent conference performances. They have become so myopically a single issue brexit party, and making a dog's breakfast of that. I feel like whatever the Maybot does will be a farce. Whether it be some hastily put together Corbyn-lite concessions or doubling on the current trajectory of doom. I used to think the Conservative party had some preternatural ability to keep the factionalism under wraps better than Labour, but deffo isn't the case rn.

I used to think the Conservative party had some preternatural ability to keep the factionalism under wraps better than Labour

This definitely wasn't the case from the early 90s onwards, pretty much up until the point when Cameron took over.

oh yeah not in the Major years or the Blair era, but in recent history.

everything old is new again lads

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives_(1962)

Gave rise to Jeremy Thorpe's finest moment:

Liberal MP Jeremy Thorpe, in a humorous twist on a biblical phrase, observed that "Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his friends for his life."