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there are SO many horror stories about elliot and pretty much all of them echo each other, he's a major piece of shit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

Becoming increasingly convinced that beyond the cramped/unworkable sentiments of 'why can't this older generation just die off' (which was always lame and reductive) instead I get a real sense of people absolutely unused to accepting or even imagining a world where things could be different. I don't mean in the way that predators will always find an out or an option, but so many around them or around situations or who 'heard stories' and shrugged, or who react to everything talked about with actual confusion. Reminds me, obliquely (I didn't experience this directly but I was around for a couple of examples of this) of when grad/med students have over the last couple of decades essentially protested living/work conditions and older professors or instructors took attitudes of "well I got through it, why can't you?" and/or "but that's the way the world is." Which...isn't helpful. Apply it to a lot of the reaction going on for the past calendar year -- Shearer's lame crack being just another example of it -- and it matches pretty clearly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

this is a good piece related to Kavanaugh but also more largely it fits into this thread as well.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yearbook-male-bonding.html

omar little, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

“no president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.”

really, he should be disqualified just for saying that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

that's just a (not ver good) joke; don't see the real problem there.

the thread beneath the first tweet

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

2 different men volunteering to the Judiciary Committee they think they, not Kavanaugh, were the ones who assaulted Ford. Really. https://t.co/iUIUV0ivV4

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) September 27, 2018

I... don't even know where to start with this. what the actual fuck

Roz, Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

like yeah, not one but TWO men would actually come forward to confess to a crime from 1982. that's TOTALLY how bad guys are caught!

Roz, Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link

one thing i really get the sense of over the past couple years is the idea of reinventing the concepts of "justice" from scratch. particularly in this response of "everybody does bad things", which is just flabbergasting misdirection. yes, pretty much all straight men have at some point behaved in a sexually inappropriate manner towards a woman or multiple women, but somehow people, particularly straight men, have such profound difficulty getting the fairly simple concept that instances of wrongdoing can differ in severity. and that's not even getting into the brain-melting concept of forcing a collective notion of "forgiveness" which systemically excludes the victims of assult and abuse. gah. i understand not getting this shit because for most of my life i didn't fucking get it either, but good god how much more obvious does it have to become until enough people accept these basic facts that we can start, you know, addressing them?

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

pretty much all straight men have at some point behaved in a sexually inappropriate manner towards a woman or multiple women

I hate this kind of argument - it cant be proven (everyone will have different anecdotal experience), and it’s implication is that male heterosexuality is inherently mysogynistic

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

yeah its shit tbf rly

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

I hate this kind of argument - it cant be proven (everyone will have different anecdotal experience), and it’s implication is that male heterosexuality is inherently mysogynistic

― Οὖτις

well my implication was rather that we live in a society built on male supremacy, not about the alleged inherent nature of male heterosexuality. emphasizing individual experience over the systemic social and cultural factors that drive real-world behavior is what drives exceptionalist bullshit like #notallmen. i consider denial of maleness and of male privilege to be similarly toxic as the denial of whiteness and of white privilege.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

the medal ceremony has been postponed indefinitely fyi

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

that's ok, i don't get any anyhow, i'm a wookiee

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

there's an array of threads on maleness for this tangent

this story about cristiano ronaldo could be huge

http://www.spiegel.de/international/cristiano-ronaldo-kathryn-mayorga-the-woman-who-accuses-ronaldo-of-rape-a-1230634.html

ogmor, Sunday, 30 September 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

ugh that Ronaldo story. I knew my irrational hatred of this guy was justified.

Roz, Sunday, 30 September 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

Thread on the CR7 story:

This is a thread about the rape allegations vs. @Cristiano: About our research @derSpiegel, about Ronaldo's reaction and a little insight into why the alleged victim Kathryn Mayorga speaks out about the case nine years later. This is the story btw: https://t.co/fwv26PhCSx 1/24

— Christoph Winterbach (@derWinterbach) September 30, 2018

groovypanda, Monday, 1 October 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link

anyone know why this story is in the sun and not the guardian?

ogmor, Monday, 1 October 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

There was some talk on Twitter that his lawyers have come down pretty heavily on the British media with warnings over how they report this.

Not sure how much truth there is in that although that thread does mention something similar.

groovypanda, Monday, 1 October 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

This br4d k3rn fella looks like a MF w/ some dark secrets

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/ncis-new-orleans-producer-brad-kern-fired-by-cbs-1148613

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

there's an array of threads on maleness for this tangent

this story about cristiano ronaldo could be huge

http://www.spiegel.de/international/cristiano-ronaldo-kathryn-mayorga-the-woman-who-accuses-ronaldo-of-rape-a-1230634.html

― ogmor, Sunday, September 30, 2018 5:04 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really trivial amount of coverage of this in sports press as far as i can see - i.e. covered broadly enough but not as a big headline anywhere

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

i think most Americans at least only know him as the douche in that stupid underwear commercial where he is sexually harassed

Nhex, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

less coverage in north america, which is about the only place he isn't an A list star, is justified. not so much in europe

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

So I guess it's too late now to consider the bottle-opener possibilities.

https://demandnewspaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/serie-a---juventus-v-u-s-sassuolo-2.jpg

how's life, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

The replies to this are predictably depressing

Whatever the legal outcome, this is awful from Juventus: pic.twitter.com/3ZDNkscTdx

— Gary Lineker (@GaryLineker) October 5, 2018

groovypanda, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link

aziz ansari can still fuck off btw. remember when he was pitching himself as mr. guy who gets it

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/aziz-ansaris-new-standup-tour-is-a-cry-against-extreme-wokeness

also master of none was overrated rich kid wank

maura, Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

Master of none sucks and is gross

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

Not that anyone cares about poetry but this #MeToo issue of the Chicago Review brings together some of the best poétesses writing in English: http://chicagoreview.org/metoo/

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

“poetesses”

seriously dude?

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

Thinking in French, sorry. I dislike the constant use of 'female' in English.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

just say poet like a human then

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

But they're all women – and that's part of the point? I'm confused.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

forget it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

Women poets would be the preferred nomenclature

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

I realise that 'poétesse' sounds odd to native English speakers. For what it's worth, I find both 'female poet' and 'woman poet' to be even odder, perhaps because I often parse them as 'a woman who happens to be a poet', whereas the French variant strikes me as 'a poet who happens to be a woman'. Anyhow, my apologies if I offended anyone.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

Master of None was good, it's disappointing he's on this trip now. Maybe all the credit for the show belongs to Alan Wang.

akm, Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

the correct term for girl poet is 'poetette'

akm, Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

poette

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Perfect.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

The whole “Louie/Master of None/Atlanta” breathless praise about middlebrow TV *auteurs* reminds me of living through Arcade Fire/Decemberists

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

i feel like it's easy to fake out people and turn your perfectly decent and average show a bit prestige with the right presentation and "authorship" at the center

omar little, Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

pomenitul most English speakers who don’t like saying “female X” because of how it sounds will say “woman X” if it needs to be made obvious these days. Female-declined nouns are deprecated in most circumstances. Women actors are just “actors” outside of Oscar categories for the most part; hardly anybody would ever say poetess or comedienne or the like unless they were being ironic. The only exception I can think of is “dominatrix”, because nobody calls a male dom a “dominator”

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

it's dominatron, you worm

j., Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Sorry sir

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

god forbid speaking more than language and confusing the two

groovemaaan, Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

silby, I get that (see my thought-process above), except for the 'actor' part – I wasn't aware of the backlash against 'actress'. What I don't understand is how in France, for example, you're taught to avoid emphasising what distinguishes you from the Archetypal Faceless French Citizen yet the language itself almost always compels you to specify the subject's gender (except for certain hotly debated instances, such as auteur or écrivain). Whereas in the US, where identity politics is far more prevalent (to say the least), linguistic neutrality is often preferred, even recommended. This is a highly simplified view, of course. Anyway, the two countries should trade languages for a day just to see what happens.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 October 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

The whole “Louie/Master of None/Atlanta” breathless praise about middlebrow TV *auteurs* reminds me of living through Arcade Fire/Decemberists


otm x 100000000000

maura, Saturday, 6 October 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

tbf, everything reminds him of that

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 October 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

he’s not wrong in this case though

maura, Saturday, 6 October 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link


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