Ten years ago,On a cold, dark night
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
some poor musicians were robbed'neath the town hall light
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
I signed up for a (trial) subscription a few days ago, after resisting doing that (for any streaming service) for so long.
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link
it's such a thrill, hope you enjoy it
― niels, Thursday, 27 September 2018 07:13 (five years ago) link
she hopes these songs have a long, long taaaaaaailshe scrobbles herself, it's a royalty faaaaaaailnobody knowsnobody seesthese premium tiers (tears) aren't freeeee
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 September 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link
you can use google to search for playlists containing specific songs, for example:site:spotify.com inurl:playlist "pour aisha"
I was thinking this might help me find songs similar to some of my favorite deep cuts
can't say it's paid off yet
― niels, Thursday, 27 September 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link
Pretty awesome find anyway, thanks!
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
Lol, Tracer
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
Still no lossless option. OK, a premium option is going to be a niche market but if people are willing to pay extra for a higher quality option then I’m sure they could easily monetise it. If it wasn’t for 8 years of playlists, I’d be considering Tidal.
https://www.avclub.com/it-is-with-a-heavy-heart-that-we-report-that-tidal-is-g-1829329262
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 30 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
I'm all for higher bitrates (why not) but I've AB'd enough formats and tracks with different bitrates to be p skeptical when reading stuff like "Tidal’s music is punchier and scuzzier and sweeter exactly when it should be. Put on something you’ve heard a thousand times and try it from a few different sources, and you’ll be able to hear the difference"
― niels, Monday, 1 October 2018 07:30 (five years ago) link
Wow, i gotta say, that at least from a "variety of artists" angle, Spotify is fucking awesome!!! Linton Kwesi Johnson, The Residents, Gene Clark, Minutemen, Peter Grudzien, Shaggs, Lee Perry, A Certain Ratio, Pearls Before Swine, Screaming Trees, Gong, Motorhead, Parliament/Funkadelic, Leonard Cohen , Thelonious Monk, Kevin Drumm, and The Sonics! All one after the other. It's like a good set on WFMU. Which is very good, indeed. Much more "deep", IMHO, than the competitio. Infinitely deeper than YouTube's new attempt at curated radio, that's for damn sure. I should've got this as soon as i got this phone. I certainly will from now on.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link
CompetitioN, that is. Meaning, of course, Pandora, that new YouTube p.o.s. Etc. Anyway, yes i know i'm late to the party on this, but so far i'm definitely liking it.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 01:39 (five years ago) link
And lots of Scott Walker!!
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link
This thread is mostly tech support now, right? Because my app has suddenly got suuuuuper janky the last few days - randomly stops, starts, skips tracks, as if someone else’s is controlling it. It’s driving me nuts.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 4 October 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link
Oh well, i was just throwing that out there. I wasn't sure where to drop it. I know i'm very late to the Spotify "party". In any case, please continue and don't let my newbie enthusiasms derail things. Good luck with your situation. I hope it all pans out for u.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link
Oh no, I wasn’t talking specifically to you - you did drop that in the right place. I was being facetious about my own troubles.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 4 October 2018 02:54 (five years ago) link
This shuffle thing is driving me nuts. I'm quickly turning into a shuffle truther.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 05:29 (five years ago) link
wait, what's the shuffle truth? i want to believe
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 October 2018 05:32 (five years ago) link
It refuses to include certain songs and even entire albums in the shuffle. It also plays certain songs way more than it should. For some reason, it takes a weeks for new tracks in my list to enter the shuffle rotation. I just want a real shuffle.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 05:35 (five years ago) link
as much as I like Spotify, I have to say I am also a shuffle truther
― niels, Thursday, 4 October 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link
Personally, i've had those sorts of problems with basically every computer-based music player when in shuffle mode. Whole albums ignored for days and yet, such and such song gets played 12 times in same time frame. And thats winamp, wmp, vlc, shit i can't remember all their names, but every last one was flawed, in that mode. These days i just go alphabetical. Usually works well.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 06:32 (five years ago) link
And i do that on my Android phone as well.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link
The truther part really ramps up when I hit shuffle, then pull up the queue and carefully inspect it, then play the last song in the queue, so that it refreshes, then inspect it again, over and over, looking for clues.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
haha
― niels, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
are some people are upset because shuffle isn't playing the stuff they want to hear? that's now how shuffle works
I mean sure it's sometimes going to play three songs from the same album relatively close together or will play some songs and albums more than others, this happens because it's random.
― silverfish, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link
https://saintlad.com/spotify-shuffle-play-is-not-random/
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
Spotify responds:
https://labs.spotify.com/2014/02/28/how-to-shuffle-songs/
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
Yeah, that's pretty old, doesn't really address the problem I'm seeing.
I get that actual random shuffling will sometimes give you three on a row from the same album or whatever.
The issue I have is that I can shuffle and reshuffle all I want, but it refuses to play tracks from specific albums. This happens with new albums that I add to my list. It always takes a few weeks at a minimum before it starts showing tracks from certain new albums in the shuffle queue.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
Ok, I work at Spotify but I don't work on Shuffle, but I still have to ask: if you want to hear some stuff from specific albums, why don't you just play those? Or make a shorter "recent discoveries" playlist instead of hoping any semi-randomizer happens to hit the 1% or .1% you want it to from your big list?
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link
so this is my shorter recent discoveries list, and it's closer to about 10% of tracks that just never come up. I do indeed end up listening to those individual records on their own outside of the shuffle, but my preference is to mix it up and just let it play. I suspect if I dig far enough down into the queue these tracks will eventually show up, but it's strange that they get pushed to the bottom.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link
if you want to hear some stuff from specific albums, why don't you just play those
lazyness certainly plays a big part in my use of shuffle
sometimes when I don't know what I want to hear I go to Songs (I've saved tons of albums to my "virtual record collection") and press shuffle, result is usually very enjoyable, inspiring
I also have a few playlists, for instance my favorite tracks from 2018 list, that I frequently update and where I can't really remember the content, so I often listen to it on shuffle
but somehow, after hours and hours of shuffling these playlists, I have a distinct feeling that (a few) certain songs come up again and again while other songs never come up, and so the shuffle thing doesn't work that well for keeping me acquainted with what's on my lists
I can't really be bothered to put in hours to verify if I'm crazy or if there's a glitch in the programming, but my impression certainly is that the shuffle function isn't perfect, and sometimes I'll shuffle the sequencing manually (similar effect to sorting alphabetically, but you can do it over and over) to improve the shuffle experience
― niels, Friday, 5 October 2018 09:39 (five years ago) link
https://uploadir.com/u/u46ogbxx.gif
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 October 2018 10:20 (five years ago) link
idgi
― niels, Friday, 5 October 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link
he’s sequencing his shuffle (American sports slang™)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 5 October 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link
I wonder if pseudo randomization works best for smaller sized lists, and that the weird effects of true randomization are less noticeable with larger lists.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 October 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link
Is there a way to sync the mobile app with the desktop app, in terms of recent searches, last album played, etc.? The two apps seem to keep those details entirely separate (even though I'm signed in to my acct. on both); so it's not "seamless" to switch from one to other (i.e., from desk to car).
― brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Friday, 5 October 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
lol, the banner photo for Roger Eno is a picture of Brian Eno
― WmC, Saturday, 6 October 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link
I will try to figure out who controls that, and tell them...
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 October 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link
that would be his own record company, right?
― niels, Saturday, 6 October 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/05/10-years-of-spotify-should-we-celebrate-or-despair?CMP=share_btn_fb
Amusing to read that the 'pro' argument includes such pearls as "its 320kbps “high quality” setting will satisfy all but the most sensitive listener... " which reads like Spotify wrote it themselves.
― piscesx, Sunday, 7 October 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link
A con they missed is the shitty editorialising of Spotify-created playlists e.g. "great tunes old and new, for fans of real music" is the description of an 80 track playlist called Transistor dominated by 90s/00s white dudes with guitars while the 'Sweet Soul Sunday' playlist promoted next to it manages to say the first bit without the patronising pandering of the last bit.
― nashwan, Sunday, 7 October 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link
Anyone know how to get a "more like this" but only with new stuff? Would be great for trying to find new dance music releases...
― DJI, Monday, 15 October 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
^^second this request
something that might help you is this "trick" I mentioned a bit upthread:
― niels, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 06:45 (five years ago) link
does discover weekly rely purely on user playlists? that would explain why listening to autechre's nts sessions for about 8 hours each week for a month has had zero effect on mine - searching for a track using that google trick finds a massive 8 playlists, 2 of which are generic new release playlists and the rest are just the nts sessions themselves.
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 08:48 (five years ago) link
Does anyone know why the queueing tracks vanish when you shut your iPhone down? Even just closing the app itself makes it disappear too i think. Any trick ways of getting the queue to 'stay' so that when you close Spotify it's still there later?
― piscesx, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
This has been happening with increasing regularity on my iPhone as well, over the past couple of months. It doesn’t happen every time you close the app (or when the app closes itself, which happens a lot too), but more often than not it does. Extremely annoying, and something that was never a problem before.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link
Yeah it's definitely a new thing innit? I thought it was just me!
― piscesx, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link
Huh, I did not realize I had "Keep on listening to similar tracks when your music ends" until just now, when my La Monte Young playlist auto-segued itself to Cutting Crew.
― mick signals, Friday, 19 October 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
wait, there are La Monte Young records on Spotify?
― sleeve, Friday, 19 October 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
heh, even when they change their Spotify handle there's no escape from the imposters:
https://open.spotify.com/track/5gJB7T4UtlnJ4YSuu3E34c?si=by0JiJekTmGbPWLJDgLZSg
― Jeff W, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link