Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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they spend too much time on their dogshit opinions

Probably a function of the fact that Anna takes up 75% of the airtime.

jmm, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

but doctor i am paglia, c

All right! A new season! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

lmao

latebloomer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

AK’s schtick really hammers home for me just how empty and reactionary contrarianism is as a mode of commentary, since it can’t exist without something to bristle against. She would be lost without her lefty/liberal media peers to piss off.

latebloomer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUJUmMU4X7s

flappy bird, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

The reading series are getting kind of exhausting too now unfortunately, way too much commentary and not enough reading the article. Having five people jumping all over a Rod Dreher piece really kills the fun.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 15 October 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

yeah, just listening to something stupid play out is much more fun than hearing people yelling "This is so stupid!" after every sentence

President Keyes, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

They should cap people on the mic at three, including guests.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

I do a show with four hosts - it can work as long as you have someone conducting/moderating, which I think Will tries and mostly fails to do. Even less of an excuse for crosstalk since they usually record in the same room.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

Bring back the talking stick/VHS box

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 15 October 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

I love jon bois but why on earth would anyone let Felix narrate a doc

working on stuff pic.twitter.com/iXKrHK2UZV

— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) October 16, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link

Must be a MMA video

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 05:04 (five years ago) link

what do you usually post about sir?

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) October 16, 2018

okay lmao

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

oh my god

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

wokemadinejad one of the top 5 weirdest developments in a very weird year

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

mahmoud ahmadinejad, go on chapo

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

lets fuckin go

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

Dude’s been active and weird:

The #NFL season will start this week, unfortunately once again @Kaepernick7 is not on a NFL roster. Even though he is one of the best Quarterbacks in the league.#ColinKaepernick #NFL

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) September 3, 2018


Dear Mahmoud,

We have much bigger problems here. #Michigan is 8-8 in its last 16 games under @CoachJim4UM . #GoBlue

Also, college football is the only authentic football.

Cordially,

Fred

— fredzannarbor (@fredzannarbor) September 3, 2018


With a hard work ethic Inshallah the U of M will return to its glory days.

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) October 16, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

great now my fav sports team has the mahmoud seal of approval

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

really confused by that tweet, if it weren't 2018 i would be befuddled by it

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

the guy’s a born shitposter, glad he’s found his niche at last

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

v good posting style imo

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

His username having his birth year is a perfect touch.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link

Only way to make it better would be Xahmadinejad1956X

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

this article about chapo and Jordan Peterson is too long and not all good, but I liked these bits:

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/10/clean-rooms-and-dirtbags/

Conservative Canadian professor Jordan Peterson and socialist Brooklynite podcast Chapo Trap House have a lot in common. They each make around a hundred thousand dollars a month from Patreon donations. They each inspire both adoration and revulsion, while rejecting, in different ways, forms of political correctness. And they share an audience—what Angela Nagle, writing in the Atlantic, called “lost boys” and what the Chapo guys call “failsons”—fans in their mid-20s, very frequently white, overwhelmingly male, with little direction in life but an aching need for purpose and meaning.

My best guess about what distinguishes a Peterson lost boy fan from a Chapo failson fan is that the two will tend to have different capacities. Peterson’s cleanliness emphasizes broad, shallow learning, aprioristic thinking, simplicity, symbolism, and sincerity. Chapo’s dirt emphasizes obsessive knowledge of various elements of modern culture (message boards, left-wing politics, film, anime, etc.), social reasoning, clever witticisms, complexity, the concrete, and irony. But Peterson’s logic does not really cohere in Twelve Rules for Life. And The Chapo Guide to Revolution isn’t a remotely clever book.

soref, Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

thanks for linking a pro trump publication itt

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

the author seems like a really great guy and not an absolutely crushing bore "classical liberal" pretentious bard graduate https://arcdigital.media/what-being-a-liberal-used-to-mean-c84a11b3aae

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

message boards, left-wing politics, film, anime, etc.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

Peterson and Chapo: a study in contrasts

flappy bird, Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

con-traps

President Keyes, Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

I never finished the Guide to Revolution, he's not wrong about it not being clever.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

while I'm sure it isn't - i'll never read it, so i'll never know - "this book is not clever" is not a very compelling argument against an irreverent book by the hosts of what is essentially a political comedy podcast.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

and the utility in comparing it with peterson's book, which is deadly (self)serious, makes no sense.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

Wasn't 'failson' just a basically self-deprecating joke? I don't think it says much about the actual makeup of Chapo's audience.

jmm, Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

they defined their fanbase as comprising of a majority of failsons, with a minority of success daughters, in the new yorker profile

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

Jason Miller adds Will to his defamation suit, time to finally put those Chapo funds to good use

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-trump-adviser-jason-miller-sues-will-menaker-of-chapo-trap-house-over-tweet

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 October 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

Amber and Will down, Dana White will probably sue Felix for whatever he says in the Jon Bois video.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 18 October 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

Virgil will end up in a CIA black site for his relationship to Ahmadinejad before he gets sued.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 18 October 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

man people are really into this civility shit huh

Chapo is obnoxious as hell and abusive too. So while I admit that they should win, if they end up shutting down over legal fees I’ll still feel a little smug.

— J.R. (@KYCol_JR) October 20, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 20 October 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

"Behaviour or speech appropriate to civil interactions; politeness, courtesy, consideration. In later use frequently with negative overtones: the minimum degree of courtesy required in a social situation; absence of rudeness." so yeah ppl are into it, it's the underpinning of civilization.

Mordy, Saturday, 20 October 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

Enjoying it is one thing, taking delight in someone (hypothetically, in this case) sued into oblivion for trespassing against it is entirely another.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 20 October 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

I think that goes beyond civility, sounds more like one of the many people who've never heard the show who believe the "racist Berniebros rating women on a scale of 10 or gulag" stuff.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 20 October 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link

I wonder if they can even get personal jurisdiction over Menaker in a Florida court over a tweet.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 21 October 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

It seems like there are some real due process concerns if a tweet becomes enough to bring someone into court anywhere in the US.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 21 October 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

As much as I'm on his side here fwiw (100%), I think this was kind of dumb and irresponsible of him. Tweeting about a lawsuit involving someone close to you is a bad move.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 21 October 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

Oh, he definitely knew it was dumb when he did it.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Sunday, 21 October 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

Unless it has changed recently, Florida explicitly allows libel action against non-residents for online posts.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 21 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

prophet matt strikes again

So apparently the sticker on the bombs said "Git Er Done" in a faux ISIS font with silhouetted mudflap ladies? What the hell.

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 24, 2018


@WarOnXMASVet @randygdub @GitRDoneLarry @mcurryfelidae07 @dankmtl @Stefan_BC "Git R Done"-- Larry the ISIS Guy, talking about jihad.

— Matt "The Dang Deficit" Christman (@cushbomb) January 6, 2016

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 October 2018 01:49 (five years ago) link

Fuck me running

flappy bird, Thursday, 25 October 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link


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