indeed
― montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
i should listen to phases again. it didn't grip me like "my woman" but it's possible that's my fault. she's really brilliant.
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
phases is a tough sell, i posted about it ad nauseam earlier so will try not to repeat myself but it dovetails in the second half into a real downer of a record - sparse, ragged acoustic and more like her earlier material. by the end of the album i was done with my hard liquor and felt like dying, it is a real bummer.
― montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
interesting. she's one of those songwriters who really makes you feel what she wants you to feel so i can imagine if she wanted to she could really pummel her listeners with despair.
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
totally! give it a second chance perhaps :)
also the first few tracks are fire so it may be unfair to expect the rest to follow suit, and it is a bsides collection as well.
― montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link
I had never heard her Springsteen cover, not sure I like the alone in a laundry room vibe to it. Also, I think she changes a minor chord to a major chord, which really alters the mood dramatically for me.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:32 PM (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
great post
― montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjt698Zv5jQ
new album All Mirrors out October 4, produced by John Congleton
the single is really good, love the blend of synths and orchestration. it's a shift in sound (but not songwriting) but it makes a lot of sense after the last one
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuJ2yitJI_U
oh and i guess her song with mark ronson from recently never got posted here, it's pretty nice
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link
i've been listening to the Ronson/Olsen track every day this summer
― josh winters (josh), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link
everything seems to indicate this is going to be her goth album i'm excited
― ufo, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uaN60k0-zY
wow
― ufo, Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
Wow. That was dramatic.
― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
catchy -_-
― fremmes with neppavenettes (rip van wanko), Thursday, 12 September 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X0q3WZwSLE
this is a good performance
the album is quite good too, though i don't think it's on the same level as my woman but i never really expected it to be. my woman captured that dreamy folk rock vibe perfectly with "sister"/"those were the days"/"woman" and this one is going for something very different. the 80s goth synths with real strings on top, both blending in with the synths and being extremely dramatic, is a great sound but it's almost too much by the end of it. this probably sounds more negative than i actually feel about it though idk. i think "new love cassette" is my favourite with the way the strings fit the most naturally with the plodding synths.
i'm looking forward to the alternate solo version of the album that's apparently coming next year
― ufo, Friday, 4 October 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link
this is an excellent john cale album
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
This is a perfect illustration of why arrangements matter so much, so much of this could so easily have sounded entirely bog-standard in a Sharon van Etten album track way but nearly every single song has a surprise in it or a moment that turns the music on its head.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
The whole way through this, I was thinking "Susanne Sundfør, but drowsy" which, I guess, is a place I'd like to visit occasionally.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
haven't heard the whole album, but i did totally get susanne sundfor vibes from 'lark.' wasn't blown away by any of her previous records, but i've liked a whole bunch of individual songs. will hopefully check this out today.
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Very curious what the tour is going to be like, if she's reworking her older material with the strings/etc.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
have been really put off by this whole rollout to be completely honest. don't think i'll be checking this one out.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
It's possible I'm listening to this album in the same week when I really dug into Weyes Blood, and I'm hearing simlar things.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, October 4, 2019 10:57 AM (two hours ago)
i love john cale albums -- what makes you say that?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
so much of this could so easily have sounded entirely bog-standard in a Sharon van Etten album track way
What’s wrong with sharon can etten? She’s great.
Can’t wait to listen to the new angel olsen though. Love her.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, October 4, 2019 11:16 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
sumptuous chamber music arrangements plus general sense of playfulness within those arrangements plus good vocal melodies. bit of an inexact comparison but i didn't feel wrong making it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
hey that sounds good to me. i just wondered what it was about john cale albums that you were referring to -- there are so many things to like and he has so many different types of albums, each of them different and yet totally john cale albums :) serious + playful is an appealing combo!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
In his albums Cale projects a sense of quashed danger, an animal pacing behind a cage. I haven't paid much attention to her since Burn Your Fire for No Witness, which was okay?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
I've only heard a couple of tracks and i dislike the arrangements/production
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
I haven't paid much attention to her since Burn Your Fire for No Witness, which was okay?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 4, 2019 11:39 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
my woman expanded her sound and is a very good record. regardless i think this one outdoes it in every way
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
"All Mirrors" didn't click for me until I played it while driving (which is much louder than I play anything at home)
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
I'm surprised she's trending on Twitter tbh
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
Why? She’s awesome and also cool.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
she's really got it all imowhether she has the ability to have a long and varied career, we will see. i hope so!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
idk, whole image of the new record seems like a put-on to me. like she saw grimes' social media antics from the last couple years and went, "yeah, like that, but with a smidgen more integrity."
this new record needs more "shut up kiss me" and less fancy headpieces.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
i thought you weren't listening to it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
i have literally no idea what this record has to do with grimes
super weird take - visual presentation has been a big part of her last two cycles. Her band toured in matching powder blue tuxes for the last one and she had a lineup of Sophia Loren-esque dresses for stage apparel
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
I've never felt as bad for a mid-level touring band as seeing them in those tuxes on stage, it must have been torture in a 100-degree packed club under stage lights
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
I don’t think she is similar at all to grimes. Looking at her social media now—hadn’t ever paid attention to it—and it seems like a similar vintagey style she is rocking.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link
On the first run through i didnt hear anytbing i liked as much as “sister.” But that’s a tall order. The album sounded really good—I’m sure on repeat listenings a few of the songs will really connect more.
― treeship., Friday, 4 October 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
i've been reading her longwinded instagram posts talking about it for the last 3+ months. i guess if you like the album, there's a lot to dig into.
for me it just felt like all that goodwill and humanist rapport she developed with my angel and phases is being tossed aside for melodrama and over the top showmanship.
when i actually heard the music she had been going on about, i just thought, "huh. okay."
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, October 4, 2019 1:15 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao wtf
― winters (josh), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
but yeah: it's me that just doesn't get this one. i'm truly glad you guys are into it.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
she always seems to be making the album SHE wants to make and i appreciate that about her. maybe it's not what you want or what her fans want or whatever but it's her album and it's what she wants. it's her music after all! i can't imagine being nitpicked this way. it would make me lose my shit.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
what i was trying to say is that it doesn't really feel like her anymore.
but again: i will fully concede that i don't get it.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
but it IS her -- she made itmaybe she isn't the her you want her to be but she is definitively still herself; i don't think there's a svengali lurking behind the curtain making her wear headpieces
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
well, like i said, that's great!
not my vibe though.
going back to abdullah ibrahim and new wave records now.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
i went through her instagram to try to understand what austin could possibly be talking about and i'm still just as confused. there's nothing weird there or remotely comparable to grimes's antics. it's fine to not get this one because it's definitely a sonic departure, though her songwriting at the core feels the same, but all the stuff complaining about her image is baffling
― ufo, Friday, 4 October 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
The songs I've heard from the new one haven't gotten me, but I haven't spent much time with them. I loved the early, mannered folky stuff, did not get captured by Burn Your Fire, and loved, loved, loved My Woman. One of my favorite things about her was her NPR interview where she talked about how into Mariah Carey she was at 12 - and I'm not that into Mariah Carey -- and I'm not that into Mariah Carey.
Seeing her for the first time in November.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 4 October 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link
By the way, I'm not that into Mariah Carey.
I have only one question: Is Mazzy Tsar into Mariah Carey?
― Hinklepicker, Friday, 4 October 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link