Kpop 2018

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And speaking of that sexy/tasteful quadrant, here's another one for the Continued Mainstreaming of Jazz Piano Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcwJvgs53Ng

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 7 October 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

Interesting theory, but time to get to paint and start filling in the names so we can tell you why we disagree

abcfsk, Sunday, 7 October 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link

Much as I dig Red Velvet not sure they've escaped to the bottom right just yet? Sophisticated presentation, but lacking agency, a bit all over the place, still very much dancing at the whims of SM. They're also just a few years old.

Lee Hyori is/was the ultimate example, I guess, going from a squarely cute 'n innocent concept group to major success in the mature phase of her career as something completely different and now in the 'do what she pleases' phase. Although she's mostly done with music by now.

abcfsk, Sunday, 7 October 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

Yeah, for Red Velvet actually I think you are right, they are bouncing back and forth between the top left (cute & upbeat) and top right (sexy bad girls) as a group, as planned from the start of their careers. Because when you establish from the beginning that you're going to be switching up your image, it makes the final transition easier & more credible.

Seulgi as a solo artist might be a better candidate for escaping to the bottom right, and SM Station in general seems to be an outlet for SM artists to try out some different sounds and maybe gain credibility as mature artists so they can escape whatever image they started out with.

For boy groups, I think the textbook example would be VIXX - they were video game characters at debut, then did some Jekyll/Hyde concept switch stuff, and now are playing up the 'sexy, mature, tasteful, and/or musically adventurous' image both as a group and in their solo releases.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 7 October 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM0xDI5R50E

Subbed, but IU's difficult to translate, puns and poetry aplenty

The song is great. Surprisingly catchy.

abcfsk, Thursday, 11 October 2018 05:48 (five years ago) link

^ i love this one! thanks for pointing it out.

fragglerock, Thursday, 11 October 2018 09:22 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX-e5rvmtas

APRIL have moved away from their usual cutesy innocent sound here with great results. 80s-influenced but still pretty distinctive in sound and it flows fantastically

ufo, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

woo

https://youtu.be/AX3Bsiq-13k

nxd, Friday, 19 October 2018 08:32 (five years ago) link

oh it didnt embed, but ^ thats the new dua lipa x blackpink song

nxd, Friday, 19 October 2018 08:32 (five years ago) link

wow that song really sux

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 20 October 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link

duua lia x blackpink obviously, not APRIL or IU. We don't even get Lisa rapping in English! Total money grab.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 20 October 2018 01:01 (five years ago) link

The John Legend x Wendy rnballad is superior in every way and an actual collab.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 20 October 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

The APRIL song is really good... the production is hypnotic and it really suits their (lighter) voices.

The song kind of sounds like something Wondergirls or TWICE would do, with a vaporwave (or the 80s Jpop sound that inspired vaporwave) sensibility and updated with modern production.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 20 October 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link

re APRIL: love how movie trends tend to permeate throughout k-pop - a few years ago, it was all the Batman stuff, now clearly it's Clueless (see also, LOOΠΔ/yyxy's look/MVs)

Roz, Saturday, 20 October 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4tBlQ5yTwY

I've actually never heard of this group - came across via Youtube autoplay. Extremely enjoyable!

Roz, Saturday, 20 October 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

They're from the survival show Idol School, I think. Kind of CJ E&M's answer to Mnet's Produce 101 or KBS's The Unit, but not as popular as either of those. I think this is the first fromis_9 track that's gotten any traction with the general public.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 22 October 2018 00:16 (five years ago) link

Love Bomb is quite good, much better than the previous fromis_9 singles i'd heard which i barely remember at all

the Batman trend in kpop videos was really so odd

ufo, Monday, 22 October 2018 00:54 (five years ago) link

EXO doing some crowd-pleasing current hip hop trends, but then there's an extended barbershop call and response bridge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwd8N6K-sLk

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 November 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAKsZ26SabQ

new TWICE is fun, certainly one of their best singles. feels kinda Kylie-ish?

ufo, Monday, 5 November 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link

Really like 'Tempo'

Frederik B, Monday, 5 November 2018 11:07 (five years ago) link

Me too Frederirk, me too.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 November 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link

I think TWICE might repeat the chorus many one or two too many times, but it's pretty enjoyable. TT is their best song I think.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 November 2018 09:08 (five years ago) link

Speaking of songs that will please fans, Key x Soyou is everything you'd want and expect from that collaboration, they both have such nice/contrasting voices and the song sounds like it could have been a b side on the last SHINee album.

https://youtu.be/BJUjR2N0aEM

Also, my boys MXM out there doing their MXM thing, I love how consistent they are with the shout vocals, simple hooks and indie visuals:

https://youtu.be/_Xgyys2zZc8

Both songs are simple but I like them.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 November 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link

Forever Yours is fun!

my top three TWICE singles are pretty easily Likey, Yes or Yes, and What Is Love?

ufo, Thursday, 8 November 2018 11:59 (five years ago) link

I'm really glad Key is doing well in this post-Jonghyun world - for a while there, it seemed like he might have been the hardest hit by the loss.

Yes or Yes is great, and more Clueless-esque plaid skirts and berets! I like Tempo too, not least because SM has finally realised how popular Sehun is and decided to give him double the number of his usual lines haha.

Roz, Thursday, 8 November 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link

Have I mentioned before that I'm into the jazz trend in Kpop? Because I'm into the jazz trend in Kpop. US producers, you need to get on this.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 17 November 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

That's a collab between Park Jiyeon (ex-GLAM) and Park Kyung, by the way.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 17 November 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

EXID come back with one of their best earworms yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAdmzjsFVQo

abcfsk, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

NCT putting melody in their hip hop again, the producers have nailed the formula, this is really good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arjy2v7zEI0

It kinda has a similar aesthetic to EXO's tempo, but younger / edgier / trendier.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

Really like Hani on the bridge of that EXID song

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

For those of us who miss old school BAP... plus one of these guys has a really impressive ability to shout on pitch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It8JCNyFW38

If 5 minutes is too long for you, they shortened it to 3 1/2 for the broadcast version (this is worth watching IMO): https://youtu.be/FA_yq0mLgHw

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:45 (five years ago) link

So have there been any consensus stand out hits this year? Out of curiosity and also, of course, looking forward to the ilx best of the year voting.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 08:46 (five years ago) link

nothing's been quite as exciting as last year's highlights in LOONA's amazing run, and Red Velvet, Twice and Blackpink all releasing their best singles but there's still a lot i like

a quick list of some favourites:
BTS - Idol
Oh My Girl - Remember Me
NCT U - Baby Don't Stop
NCT 127 - Touch
LOONA/Olivia Hye feat. JinSoul - Egoist
(G)I-DLE - HANN (Alone)
Sunmi - Siren
Yubin - Lady
Apink - I'm so sick
Red Velvet - Bad Boy
Red Velvet - Power Up
Brave Girls - Rollin' (New Version)
Hyolyn - See Sea

out of those, i'm certainly voting for "Idol", "Remember Me" and at least one NCT track, and maybe a few of the others

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

I could support GIdle, maybe Sunmi, BTS, well, they've had a year anyway. Will probably add IU, though still disappointed we didn't get her top 77 last year. I'll be voting for BoA's Woman in the album poll.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 09:47 (five years ago) link

'power up' for me

nxd, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 10:49 (five years ago) link

Merry and happy 2018 from Twice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfUGjK6gGgs

Jeff W, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

That's a great list, ufo... I'm down to vote for everything on it up to Siren.

I'll add:
Momoland - Bboom Bboom
Pentagon - Shine
Seventeen - Oh My
Chungha - Roller Coaster
GFriend - Time for the Moon Night
Dean - Instagram
Lee Jin Ah - Run (with Gray)**
NCT 127 - Boss
NCT 127 - Simon Says
Minseo - Zero
The Boyz - Giddy Up
April - Oh My Mistake
SHINEE - Countless

Other songs I'm thinking about but don't feel strongly about:
ONF - Complete
Got7 - Lullaby

And the ones no one else will vote for:
Brand New Boys (MXM) - Ya Ya Ya
Soyou - All Night (with SIK-K)
Day6 - Shoot Me**
UNB - Black Heart
SHINEE - Lock You Down

**Mostly as a stand in for the songs from these artists I wish I'd nominated last year lmao, but both songs are pretty hooky.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link

Also, this is separate from my year-end list, but here's my JAZZ WATCH 2018 list for those who are interested:

Lee Jin Ah (with Gray) - Run
Dean - Instagram
Soyou (with SIK-K) - All Night
Minseo - Is Who?
Brand New Boys - Ya Ya Ya
UNB - Black Heart
April - The Blue Bird
Fromis_9 - Dancing Queen
SHINEE - Retro
BTS - Pluto
Heize - First Sight

Fully expecting this trend to jump over from Korea to the US at some point, or maybe that's just my wishful thinking.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhXDFl6tmVY

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

To let you guys know how serious this is, we have two local very good jazz stations these days they are the only thing I listen to on the radio.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

Basically last year would have been a great time to nominate some jazzy Kpop

(example:
Heize - Jenga
Lee Jin Ah - Random
Day6 - What Should I Do)

and these songs have grown on me a bunch, so this year is my chance to make amends.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

Also add CLC - Seventh to that JAZZ WATCH 2018 list, I think I might nominate all the tracks on it just for laffs.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

i could definitely get behind 'Run' and 'oh! My Mistake'. i'd forgotten about 'Run' but it's excellent

ufo, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

Since I feel so strongly about this, I went ahead and made an 8tracks playlist for ya'll. Some of the songs on it are from 2017 tho:

https://8tracks.com/subdee/jazz-watch-2018.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link

I love oh! my mistake, have you seen the video of April doing it live acapella after the audio cuts out at some college festival? They aren't power vocalistss by any means but much stronger than I'd thought.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

Not sure if there's a consensus pick yet but I *still* haven't gotten over the vocal arrangements on NCT U's "Baby Don't Stop" so that's probably going to be my highest-placing K-pop pick.

Other faves, mostly the same as what everyone else has posted:
Red Velvet - "Bad Boy" (a real slow-burner for me but it's now kind of my favourite RV song? Weird.)
SHINee - "Good Evening"
Hyolyn - "SEESEA"
TWICE - "What is Love?"
Pentagon - "Shine"
G)I-DLE - "HANN (Alone)"
SF9 - "Now or Never"
April - "Oh! My Mistake"

Also was this ever posted here? TSJ reviewed this a couple of weeks ago, and it's incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR5CtMLuiqQ

Roz, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

ooh that's great

nxd, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PALjhRpnfbk

this is pretty nice

ufo, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

Year-end BANGER from BoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1XOFi42xZM

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

#BoAforilxoryearend

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link


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