Democratic (Party) Direction

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-democratic-party-fallout-anger.html

Not sure what the conclusion here is, but it is one in a long line of articles asking "why are we playing by rules that the other side doesn't care about breaking?" My problem is that it seems like making dems angry or sad is pretty much the the GOP's favorite thing, so when we do it, it backfires. How do we turn that around? Maybe the Ted ad from Linklater was a test of new tactics? Tease the GOP for being scaredy-cats and babies?

well, the Linklater ad is both v specific to Texas and to Linklater himself, idk if that's an easily replicable model

The 2020 Senate election is shaping up to be the moment when the organic Republican majority within the Senate falls into place. Trump won 46 percent of the popular vote in 2016 but 60 percent of states, and states like Idaho and Wyoming get just as many senators as California. Unless a whole bunch of red states suddenly turn blue, Democrats will be stuck where they are: in the minority.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/democrats-senate-2020-prospects.html

Options:

convince reds they r wrong
try to “punish” red states
change us constitution
move to a red state with other blues

that piece barely qualifies as reportage, it just regurgitates electoral map math that anyone could figure out and doesn't take into account how radically political landscapes can shift, ie who would have predicted a Democratic Senator from Alabama just two years ago.

like duh anyone that has read the Constitution and done the math on population/state distribution could tell you there's an easy way for a minority-party to get a majority in the Senate, the Constitution was designed to accomodate just that. But elections/candidates can counter that.

(don't get me wrong I'm all for re-writing the Constitution, but it ain't gonna happen)

Yeah, it's kinda a slight of hand to use Doug Jones as an example of how hard it will be for Dems to win in 2020 - they have the most vulnerable incumbent! Doug Jones showed it could be done in freaking Alabama, two more years of Trump scandals and a recession, there will be another blue wave. Imdo, if Dems don't win the Senate in 2020 it's because Trump gets reelected, and, well, then that's fairly logical.

Jones wouldn't have won without Moore's scandal. I won't be surprised if the loses on the next round with a scandal-free GOP opponent.

does such a thing exist

do we have any evidence that there are any non-childfucking republicans

Well, in theory such a thing *could* exist.

So could non-black ravens

scandal-free GOP opponent

we are talking about fucking Alabama

this was all *prior* to Roy Moore

The speaker of the House had, less than a year earlier, been convicted on a dozen felony charges and ousted. The chief justice of the State Supreme Court had, for a second time, been forced to give up his gavel. Then the governor, the most likely candidate for impeachment in generations of garish, contentious politics, pleaded guilty and resigned.

even with all that, doug jones barely won: 49.9% to 48.4%

that is true, and it was black women that made the difference. Put a candidate that has black women motivated on the ballot in 2020 + Doug Jones avoiding any fuckups/inflaming local ire and maybe he can pull it off.

GOP: Democrats are an angry, well-funded mob who are trying to engineer a deep state coup.

Democrats: Hi, we couldn't stop a 77-year old non-Spanish speaker from grabbing our nomination for the House race in Miami.
https://t.co/AL1iisR0Om

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 11, 2018

"Since the end of July, Republican candidates in the 70 most contested races have reserved $60 million in TV ads, compared to $109 million for Democratic hopefuls"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/12/gop-democratic-record-fundraising-response-898162?

who lets these ppl continue to speak in public

Hillary Clinton: Bill's affair with Monica Lewinsky wasn't an abuse of power because 'she was an adult'https://t.co/ZHS00Chwfw pic.twitter.com/ozCMXmAg9g

— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) October 14, 2018

tbf that relationship was consensual, with Lewinsky doing most of the courting.

But they should shut the fuck up and throw themselves off a cliff.

it was consensual and an abuse of power

Ding ding ding

Poor Bill was powerless, how could he resist an intern bj?!? How could he not execute that mentally deficient man on death row? How could he not [insert garbage triangulating shit gabbneb would "explain" for us here]

elsewhere in Clintonism

Two of the biggest think tanks in Democratic politics, the centrist Third Way and the more liberal Center for American Progress, have come together to tell Democrats to pipe down about immigration, because bringing the Trump administration’s unbearable cruelty to light might lose them a couple of votes that were surely leaning towards them otherwise.

https://splinternews.com/democrats-told-to-avoid-talking-about-immigration-whic-1829750912

Bill Clinton did worse things than his Lewinsky affair, which was bad enough.

Probably yeah, but he admitted to the Lewinsky affair, it was while in office, and he should have stepped down because of it.

I opened this thread and started reading it thinking it said the posts were from 12 hours ago. I made it 30 posts in before I saw that it said 12 years ago. Not much has changed. Stop talking about Hillary. Christ.

but her emails

but his rapes

I mean, if she specifically comes out with a new statement excusing him, it's going to be talked about. You can't have it both ways, if she is making public statements people are going to talk about them.

A lot easier not to talk about the Clinton's when they don't release boneheaded statements weeks before an election tbf xps

yes, get them -- no, HER -- to STFU

but yes, both over the cliff

tell cbs to stop booking her too

if we’re going to go after all culpable parties here

why is it never the fault of the interviewers or producers

"why did you give me this hammer, now I've gone and hit myself in the head"

i’m not defending hrc morbs. i’m saying that even fluffy sunday morning magazine shows should focus on the future.

the pursuit of eyeballs is an inherently conservative thing and unfortunately tv is all about that as is online media.... which is why the usual suspects are constantly trotted out

their hits are almost always retro

Stop talking about Hillary.

Unlike Dubya, Bill and Hillary will never stop trying to be seen as politically relevant and will always step into whatever spotlight is offered to them. Even Obama has kept a fairly low profile compared to Hillary, who's toured to flog her book since the election. I conclude she very much wants us to talk about her. But, you're right, we shouldn't.

Hillary and Bill decide whether or not to give interviews and what to give interviews about. I guarantee you they have a great deal of control over the subject matter, and they are grown ups who know how to say "I don't have a comment on that" even if surprised. She wanted to put that message out.

okay fine. only they are culpable. you’re all right. the way media relies on the same old names to bring in eyeballs certainly isn’t a problem at all.

Christ. It literally is so easy to pay her only a roll of the eyes.

there's even an emoji for it

if you insist on posting about it

I don't emoji.

good policy probably

okay fine. only they are culpable. you’re all right. the way media relies on the same old names to bring in eyeballs certainly isn’t a problem at all.

― maura, Monday, October 15, 2018 11:34 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, that's a problem in the entirety of politics, but it's kind of a weird deflection to make when someone intentionally and prominently defends severely problematic behavior in said media.

Hillary and Bill decide whether or not to give interviews and what to give interviews about. I guarantee you they have a great deal of control over the subject matter, and they are grown ups who know how to say "I don't have a comment on that" even if surprised. She wanted to put that message out.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), 15. oktober 2018 18:33 (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, no