Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

Just listening to the (magnificent) I Was Young When I Left Home from No Direction Home and wondering if the rest of the Minnesota Tapes are worth tracking down or if they're even available?

That early period is really killing me right now.

Surely easy to track down? Tylerw to thread!

I confess I've sort of gone off very early Bob. That may change again.

The sonic embodiment of mid-October.

the mono mixes that were released in the box the few years ago really turned me around on the early albums

Greil Marcus does an in-depth thing on the new "Blood on the Tracks" set here: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/real-life-rock-top-ten-746600/

he's one of those canonized journalists where I can't understand a word of his writing

Especially once the Weissberg outfit was out of the room, with their eight consecutive takes on the stupid hoedown “You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome when You Go” — yeah, that’s a real heartbreaker of a breakup song, especially if you can’t remember the name of the person you’re supposedly breaking up with — the New York performances are pure, real, acoustic, searching, pure, anguished, soulful, unencumbered and pure. You can see right through them, to the person who’s singing! It’s like reading his autobiography! This is the truth!

seems so insider-y

Yeah, I honestly can’t even tell if he’s being “serious” or “sarcastic” in any part of that chunk you quoted.

I did think it was interesting how he pointed out that a lot of the songs employ the format where every verse ends with a repetition of the title phrase; guess I never thought of that.

They edited that out on "Rainy Day Women no 12 and 35"

Haha, well I meant the BotT songz

(I knew)

DOIN’ THE “BOTT”
HEY PRETTY PRETTY

irl lol

Really excited for the Blood on the Tracks set.

I am subscribed to a related Spotify playlist but so far only two of the tracks are from that set.

Dylan stuff doesn't seem to come to Spotify right away, at least in complete form. Triplicate just had a sampler for about a year.

yeah, in the past, they haven't put up the complete deluxe bootleg series stuff, as far as I know.
here are my initial thoughts on the new one: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2018/10/29/bob-dylan-more-blood-more-tracks-the-bootleg-series-vol-14/

Thanks! Paul Griffin!

didn't get into it in the review, but Griffin's contributions are still best heard via the acetate bootleg — the new mix is not as good imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBLViMLws10

great little review

yeah, in the past, they haven't put up the complete deluxe bootleg series stuff, as far as I know.
here are my initial thoughts on the new one: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2018/10/29/bob-dylan-more-blood-more-tracks-the-bootleg-series-vol-14/

― tylerw, Monday, October 29, 2018 2:55 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just don't what they want from me
it's like the more blood we come across, the more tracks we see

Hm. That’s

didn't get into it in the review, but Griffin's contributions are still best heard via the acetate bootleg — the new mix is not as good imo.

📹

hmm, i did not pay to watch that video. anyway, the acetate mix is out there ... somewhere.

I can watch the video without being asked to pay

Hm. Tried again and then again and it finally worked, third time was the charm. Sorry for the kerfuffle.

Maybe a stupid question but... Does the "correct speed" version of BOTT sound noticeably different? I can't imagine it does, but I'd be interested in opinions. I'd be tempted to buy the mp3s if it were worth it.

does the box set include the chopped&screwed version of BotT?

Blood on the Traps

Duke, for comparison you can find those "slowed down" original versions online, there was an audiophile vinyl reissue in the 80s that had the speed corrected, believe it's called the hi-speed remaster

not a big difference, but it is noticeable

I guess you can also ilxmail me your email and I can send you a link

Very kind, thanks. I think I can actually replicate this reasonably well by slowing down my CD version of the album. My player supports that in increments of 0.1%

According to someone over at Steve Hoffmann, the differences are

Tangled Up in Blue 2.30%
Simple Twist of Fate 2.30%
You're a Big Girl Now 2.28%
Idiot Wind 2.25%
You're Gonna Make... 2.21%
Meet Me in the Morning 2.35%
Lily, Rosemary... 1.74%
If You See Her Say Hello 0.68%
Shelter From the Storm 0.68%
Buckets of Rain 0.61%
Total 1.77% 

I’ve been waiting years for this release and they screwed it up. I wanted high quality versions of the test pressing in the original running order and this does not have it.

haha, yeah, that would've been good. wouldn't be surprised if they put it out as a standalone thing for record store day — they did that for the basement tapes acetate anyway.

is there more stuff from the minneapolis dates that they didn't release on this?

i thought there were full version from both mpls and NY

the master takes from mpls are the only surviving recordings apparently ... which is too bad! was just jamming the mpls "idiot wind" and the drummer is a monster.

ah damn :(

I’ve been waiting years for this release and they screwed it up. I wanted high quality versions of the test pressing in the original running order and this does not have it.

― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:12 (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha, yeah, that would've been good. wouldn't be surprised if they put it out as a standalone thing for record store day — they did that for the basement tapes acetate anyway.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:23 (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What is this you're referring to? I thought the 6 disc edition had basically everything. Clearly I need to up my Dylan knowledge!

this guy: https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/7844
i don't know if it's really necessary

Sorry, I meant the BOTT test pressing referred to above

the BOTT test pressing is where the NY Sessions bootlegs came from:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rare-test-pressing-of-bob-dylans-blood-on-the-tracks-found-55074/

are all those tracks on the set though? could you just make a playlist

everything's been remixed, so you're not getting the OG BOTT on the new set. #OGBOTT

Ah. Ok. Thanks! That doesn't bother me so much. But let's get the hashtag trending!!!

I'm really torn with this one. I could afford the full set right now. But I don't think I need it. But if I just get the single disc I'll begin to worry I'm missing out. First world problems!

it's kinda lame they went with either the huge set or 1 disc....usually they've done 2CD sets that get most of the essential stuff for $20-25

see listings for this...think it's japanese? don't know if it's a 2CD (what is "Blu-spec"??) or if it's just expensive because it's an import?

https://www.amazon.com/More-Blood-Tracks-Blu-spec-CD2/dp/B07H5VVD8N/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540933235&sr=8-3&keywords=more+blood+more+tracks+dylan&dpID=517x%252BIB6qxL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

It says "number of discs: 1". Confusing

Agree that a 2disc selection would have been good

it may just be an import i can't find anything credible on it