Saturday Night Live

yeah i mean they went on to "greater things" i guess bc they leveraged their strengths out of snl but imo the wiig/hader/forte/sudeikis years were some of the most watchable years in this show's history. what i wouldn't give to have forte back :(

evol's list is insane. poehler wiig rudolph average?? i think he has a point with sudeikis and morgan. hader was brilliant on snl. armisen went on to portlandia yechh

yea wasn't Hader leaving SNL seen as a big mistake at the time

what exactly has he done besides that weird movie with LeBron?

he just won an emmy for his hbo show

Barry! Xp

oh yeaaaah

never mind

He did a good Documentary Now thing

yeah but why work with HBO when he could still be on SNL impersonating Sheldon Whitehouse or someone

what exactly has he done besides that weird movie with LeBron?

― frogbs, Friday, October 19, 2018 10:00 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he just won an emmy for his hbo show

that's a very weird way to describe Trainwreck

the roots of the problem with this show are very clearly spelled out by Harry Shearer in his critique of Lorne Michaels. Everything comes down to Michael's idiotic insistence on poor working conditions and his own "rules" for what he thinks works

evol's list is insane. poehler wiig rudolph average?? i think he has a point with sudeikis and morgan. hader was brilliant on snl. armisen went on to portlandia yechh

― the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Friday, October 19, 2018 10:49 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i got a little carried away listing names and forgot my original premise. Wiig was definitely one of the best, if not the best, cast member of the past decade. Rudolph was really good too. I honestly don't remember much of anything from Amy Poehler though maybe it's just that I only think of her as Leslie Knope now.

the roots of the problem with this show are very clearly spelled out by Harry Shearer in his critique of Lorne Michaels. Everything comes down to Michael's idiotic insistence on poor working conditions and his own "rules" for what he thinks works

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 19, 2018 3:38 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah why hire a ton of improv experts and forbid improvisation

There was an interview with Nick Kroll I just saw, where he says that yes, he did at one point audition for SNL, and fellow comedians who didn't make the cut that year included Ellie Kemper and Jordan Peele. So clearly SNL attracts top talent, but that top talent for whatever reason does not always make it to the cast. I wouldn't be shocked if they sometimes come across a really talented person and don't pick them for that reason, worrying that they won't stick around.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, October 19, 2018 7:19 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

john goodman, jim carrey and paul reubens (amongst others) auditioned for snl and weren't cast

I like Shearer's story about how Lorne hired him as a player but told the cast he was just a writer, causing everyone to get annoyed that he kept casting himself in his sketches

Carrey's humor more suited to Mad TV (for what that's worth)

in living color you mean?

Shearer points out all sorts of stupid things that hamper the show - why allow only a couple of days to rehearse anything? why insist on doing it live if improv is forbidden? why force everyone to compete for exposure? etc

oh yeah ILC xp

first year salary at SNL is reportedly $2500/wk, for the 22(?) week run, which is basically subsistence living in NYC. gotta be tons of perks but with Lorne's net worth over $300M that seems cheap imo

i mean lorne's a total piece of shit right? i thought that was his "thing"

yes he is a total piece of shit

Shearer points out all sorts of stupid things that hamper the show - why allow only a couple of days to rehearse anything? why insist on doing it live if improv is forbidden? why force everyone to compete for exposure? etc

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 19, 2018 2:58 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I love how he pointed out that he got shit for the expense of the synchronized swimming film, only for SNL to trot it out at every possible anniversary-related opportunity.

first year salary at SNL is reportedly $2500/wk, for the 22(?) week run

$5000/week in 2013, per Brooks Wheelan on The Little Dum Dum Club this week

interesting ty

well that's certainly not enough to live a druggy lifestyle in NY, no wonder there hasn't been much of that in awhile

If you're an SNL cast member people will likely just hand you drugs.

well that's certainly not enough to live a druggy lifestyle in NY, no wonder there hasn't been much of that in awhile

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, October 19, 2018 12:43 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah yes, the subsistence wage of $10k a month

i mean lorne's a total piece of shit right? i thought that was his "thing"

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 19, 2018 12:06 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes he is a total piece of shit

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 19, 2018 12:06 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally, i think there are def some ex SNL cast members who don't really gaf anymore who are on record talking about his shit tendencies.

Shearer is cantankerous enough that I don't think he ever gave a fuck and has been pretty open but also I think his POV is relevant because he is pretty sharp about how these ensemble comedy sort of things can and should work in general. I can think of a bunch of former castmembers (Murphy, Murray, McDonald etc.) who I would imagine have a p low opinion of Lorne, but idk how public they've been about it.

jiv, it's only 22 shows.

Murphy was only on during the Ebersol years (though I wouldn't be surprised if he has a low opinion of Lorne from David Spade's "Look! A falling star!" line).

xp

i think generally anyone who wasn't a white dude from the original cast has or had mixed feelings about LM, most of them afaik haven't gone all-in on him publicly but there have been a few somewhat dissenting opinions on how he dealt w/things.

This is why I don't watch this fucking garbage anymore:

Actor and former “Saturday Night Live” cast member Taran Killam said the show’s creator and executive producer Lorne Michaels wanted the cast to make President Trump more “likable” in sketches and was very specific about what he allowed members to say about him.

Mr. Killam, who appeared on “SNL” from 2010-2016 and played Mr. Trump on the show until Alec Baldwin took over, told the “I Was There Too” podcast released Tuesday that Mr. Michaels often told the cast not to “vilify” the then-Republican presidential candidate.

“‘He’s like any New York taxi driver. … I know him, I’ve seen him around at parties for years and years, and he just says whatever it is he’s thinking, and that’s his thing,’” Mr. Killam recalled Mr. Michaels saying. “You have to find a way in that makes him likable.”

Mr. Killam has been critical of Mr. Trump in the past, saying last year that having him on the show as a host before the Republican primary was something that “grows more embarrassing and shameful as time goes on.”

If you took every funny sketch SNL ever did, would you have enough for 1 season's worth of shows?

yes

jiv, it's only 22 shows.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, October 19, 2018 1:43 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes and for the time they're doing those 22 shows it's a good earner

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, October 19, 2018 4:58 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as sic corrected it it would actually amount to $110,000 for < 6 months work, for people in their first year.

have you seen the rents here?

Quidities and agonies

xp. yes

we're talking about people in their first year at the show too, like people that posters itt don't remember being cast members despite them being on the show like a year ago

the famously cheap-to-rent-in city of Vancouver

but also I think his POV is relevant because he is pretty sharp about how these ensemble comedy sort of things can and should work in general.

speaking of, successful sketch comedy ensemble showrunner Bob Odenkirk bemoaned the process of dropping pitches forever if they didn’t get up the first week, instead of developing and improving the scripts over the next few weeks. so that nothing that’s been worked on ever goes to air, it has to be some half-arsed nonsense that somebody first thought of a couple of days ago

Shearer said the same thing. It's totally stupid.

back when Odenkirk was on SNL, he was working with an incredible cast and writers like Smigel and Conan O'Brien, and i think even if you come up with something a couple days previously and you've got a preternatural talent for comedy you can turn it into gold. i...don't think the current group has that same talent for writing or character, i think they have energy, confidence, and a very good show on which to get noticed.

They paid Luke Null $110.000, which means they paid $110.000 for that 'Late for School'-sketch

no one in the current cast would be capable of doing this or even getting through it with a straight face.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/one-more-mission/n9473

"first year salary at SNL is reportedly $2500/wk, for the 22(?) week run"

how the fuck did pete davidson afford to give ariana grande a 100k engagement ring?

They paid Luke Null $110.000, which means they paid $110.000 for that 'Late for School'-sketch

― Frederik B, Friday, October 19, 2018 2:55 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he had to spend 22 weeks sleeping in the Port Authority Bus Terminal to bring this sketch to the world due to this miserly stipend

XP wise investments Big Dick Energy, duh.