pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

"tour" is such a jam

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/

Jeremy Larson for president

The opening line is such a clunker.

damn that's an old-school pitchfork review

never heard a note by these guys but judging by the Zep-obsessed dorks who won't shut up about them I figure this is pretty damn accurate

It's also being discussed in the 'What Is Rockism?' thread.

it is a throwback to old style p4k but GVF is such an easy target

A throwback review for a throwback band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6cIYDvFS-U

Jet wasn't an easy target?

https://popula.com/2018/09/13/canon-fodder/

Thought this was p good. Also enjoyed hearing him talk about it on the Trillbilly podcast (along with David Allen Coe's son)

if you were an incoming freshman in 2005 who put “everything but rap and country” on your Facebook profile, there was another website growing in popularity that year that covered everything: Pitchfork Media.

I’m being unfair. Pitchfork did cover rap once in a while, but that was new at the time.

yeah they weren't as rap-focused in 2005 as they are now, but there are more than 300 pre-2006 hip hop reviews in the archives, so "once in a while" is also also unfair.

I mean they also didn’t cover a lot of metal or punk unless it was hipster contingent stuff.

Popula is a journalist-owned, journalist-run, ad-free publication on the Ethereum-based Civil publishing platform.

feel like i have to post that every time someone links to them

lmao

cage-free journalism

I learned about Ethereum in the New Yorker! Bit Coin!

No Conde Nast, no credibility, eh?

🙄

i suppose country music has as much place in The Canon as black metal does

I know Burzum fans love feeling persecuted but most of the important black metal albums came out in the 90s

yeah, all those 90s Bathory and Celtic Frost albums everyone loves

Pitchfork had already published a list of The Top 100 Albums of the 1980s in 2002, since scrubbed from the internet.

um, it's right here. https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-top-100-albums-of-the-1980s/

iirc you can also donate to Popula via traditional crowdfunding, which is good cuz Civil has turned out to be a fiasco (for some reason???)

Making it about Burzum seems like a strawman, as if the old Pitchfork celebrated Metallica and Van Halen and never ran a "worst guitar solos of all time" feature that included "Dazed and Confused" and "Comfortably Numb".

Like, I absolutely have heard "everything except heavy metal" as much as "everything except country".

someone start a popula thread

Oh nm, I thought circanm's post was about early Pfork, not the recent list.xp

circa1916

Like, I absolutely have heard "everything except heavy metal" as much as "everything except country".

― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r)

i guess i was too oblique, my point was more that both genres are absolutely riddled with racist pieces of shit, particularly in terms of their fanbases

Oh lol

harsh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1JqA3A7uXU

alternative nation gives pitchfork review 1.6 out of 5

The Doors and Greta Van Fleet, flagship bands of the "Alternative Nation"

"the point of reviewing music is to provide your opinion"

oh shit the secret GVF fans at p4k get called out

RIP Pfork Reviews Reviews

WATCH Alternative Nation absolutely *OBLITERATES* pitchfork

Alternative Nation? The Kennedy show?

Rewatching this, I feel like someone should really have told her not to post it, or at least to go back and work out what her arguments were and then make a new video.

that video is fascinating. I find this whole thing fascinating. not only does she fundamentally misunderstand what music criticism is, her anger betrays an insecurity that p much every GVF fan has expressed since the p4k review was published. if p4k really doesn't matter, if they really are just preaching to the choir, just churning out haters and think pieces, uh.... who gives a shit? your new favorite band is #1 on the Billboard Top 200. they're selling out theaters everywhere they go and will probably be playing arenas within the year. why so upset by p4k's scorn? it's Trumpian to me, doing air quotes every time she says "article" or "review," as if they're fake. she says there's a difference between expressing an opinion and "just bashing"... uh, no there isn't, a harsh opinion is still an opinion.

seems kinda needlessly mean to link to a video of someone's onstage breakdown in the middle of what's already a sharply negative review of their new album

lmao a 3.5

guess after deleting the stay what you are review from the archive they needed a replacement

Saves the Day brought emo and its cultural associations to the mass audiences of MTV

iirc and imo, std were never mtv big, this was dashboard

the opening riff from one of the singles was a dead ringer for "fly away" so I assume the album's probably not so hot, but still

and yeah that seems revisionist

the album is very good, this review is not

the opening track is way more tongue-in-cheek and fun than the writer makes it out to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=appHBD7ut80

Absent of emotional context, it feels delusional and desperate: “Let’s sing along another 20 years,” Conley begs, conjuring up the cursed image of a wrinkled, 50-year-old Saves the Day performing “At Your Funeral” at some kind of twelfth-wave emo revival cruise full of retirees.

... ok but it's a two minute pop-punk jam

v good sign that the reviewer is here to take it down is that the 21-minute song that takes up half the album is only mentioned in passing