Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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Really excited for the Blood on the Tracks set.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

I am subscribed to a related Spotify playlist but so far only two of the tracks are from that set.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 October 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link

Dylan stuff doesn't seem to come to Spotify right away, at least in complete form. Triplicate just had a sampler for about a year.

President Keyes, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

yeah, in the past, they haven't put up the complete deluxe bootleg series stuff, as far as I know.
here are my initial thoughts on the new one: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2018/10/29/bob-dylan-more-blood-more-tracks-the-bootleg-series-vol-14/

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

Thanks! Paul Griffin!

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

didn't get into it in the review, but Griffin's contributions are still best heard via the acetate bootleg — the new mix is not as good imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBLViMLws10

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

great little review

niels, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

yeah, in the past, they haven't put up the complete deluxe bootleg series stuff, as far as I know.
here are my initial thoughts on the new one: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2018/10/29/bob-dylan-more-blood-more-tracks-the-bootleg-series-vol-14/

― tylerw, Monday, October 29, 2018 2:55 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just don't what they want from me
it's like the more blood we come across, the more tracks we see

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

Hm. That’s

didn't get into it in the review, but Griffin's contributions are still best heard via the acetate bootleg — the new mix is not as good imo.

📹

Thanks, but This Video Requires Payment To Watch.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

hmm, i did not pay to watch that video. anyway, the acetate mix is out there ... somewhere.

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

I can watch the video without being asked to pay

Duke, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

Hm. Tried again and then again and it finally worked, third time was the charm. Sorry for the kerfuffle.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

Maybe a stupid question but... Does the "correct speed" version of BOTT sound noticeably different? I can't imagine it does, but I'd be interested in opinions. I'd be tempted to buy the mp3s if it were worth it.

Duke, Monday, 29 October 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

does the box set include the chopped&screwed version of BotT?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

Blood on the Traps

President Keyes, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

Duke, for comparison you can find those "slowed down" original versions online, there was an audiophile vinyl reissue in the 80s that had the speed corrected, believe it's called the hi-speed remaster

not a big difference, but it is noticeable

niels, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 08:04 (five years ago) link

I guess you can also ilxmail me your email and I can send you a link

niels, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 08:04 (five years ago) link

Very kind, thanks. I think I can actually replicate this reasonably well by slowing down my CD version of the album. My player supports that in increments of 0.1%

According to someone over at Steve Hoffmann, the differences are

Tangled Up in Blue 2.30%
Simple Twist of Fate 2.30%
You're a Big Girl Now 2.28%
Idiot Wind 2.25%
You're Gonna Make... 2.21%
Meet Me in the Morning 2.35%
Lily, Rosemary... 1.74%
If You See Her Say Hello 0.68%
Shelter From the Storm 0.68%
Buckets of Rain 0.61%
Total 1.77% 

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

I’ve been waiting years for this release and they screwed it up. I wanted high quality versions of the test pressing in the original running order and this does not have it.

Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

haha, yeah, that would've been good. wouldn't be surprised if they put it out as a standalone thing for record store day — they did that for the basement tapes acetate anyway.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

is there more stuff from the minneapolis dates that they didn't release on this?

i thought there were full version from both mpls and NY

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

the master takes from mpls are the only surviving recordings apparently ... which is too bad! was just jamming the mpls "idiot wind" and the drummer is a monster.

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

ah damn :(

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

I’ve been waiting years for this release and they screwed it up. I wanted high quality versions of the test pressing in the original running order and this does not have it.

― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:12 (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha, yeah, that would've been good. wouldn't be surprised if they put it out as a standalone thing for record store day — they did that for the basement tapes acetate anyway.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:23 (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What is this you're referring to? I thought the 6 disc edition had basically everything. Clearly I need to up my Dylan knowledge!

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

this guy: https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/7844
i don't know if it's really necessary

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

Sorry, I meant the BOTT test pressing referred to above

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

the BOTT test pressing is where the NY Sessions bootlegs came from:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rare-test-pressing-of-bob-dylans-blood-on-the-tracks-found-55074/

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

are all those tracks on the set though? could you just make a playlist

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

everything's been remixed, so you're not getting the OG BOTT on the new set. #OGBOTT

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

Ah. Ok. Thanks! That doesn't bother me so much. But let's get the hashtag trending!!!

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

I'm really torn with this one. I could afford the full set right now. But I don't think I need it. But if I just get the single disc I'll begin to worry I'm missing out. First world problems!

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

it's kinda lame they went with either the huge set or 1 disc....usually they've done 2CD sets that get most of the essential stuff for $20-25

see listings for this...think it's japanese? don't know if it's a 2CD (what is "Blu-spec"??) or if it's just expensive because it's an import?

https://www.amazon.com/More-Blood-Tracks-Blu-spec-CD2/dp/B07H5VVD8N/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540933235&sr=8-3&keywords=more+blood+more+tracks+dylan&dpID=517x%252BIB6qxL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link

It says "number of discs: 1". Confusing

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

Agree that a 2disc selection would have been good

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

it may just be an import i can't find anything credible on it

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

It has 11 tracks; probably just a Blu-spec (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-spec_CD) version of the domestic 1CD release.

greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

what is blu spec?

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

See that Wikipedia link... it’s a different CD manufacturing format (which still plays on standard players).

greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

Ah woops... Also goddamn I'm gonna have to some Blu spec CD now

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link

#OGBOTT #BLUSPEC

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

*tweets furiously*

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

Tyler I demand an article from you talking about how the American version is far inferior to the #BluSpec

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link

you haven't heard BLOOD til you've heard it on BLU

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

Tangled Up in Blu-spec CD2

greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

BluSpec For the Tracks

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

Japan is cool, b/c physical media has remained popular there, so Sony etc. have continued to "improve" CDs into the 2000s (I put "improve" in quotes, b/c I don't know if it's actually an improvement or not... I bet it is, though!)

greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

@aquadrunkard Basically the Only Good Dylan Album is the #BluSpec CD of Street Legal, by tylerw

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

#SpecLegal

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

#GottaSpecSomebody

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link

great work itt everybody, appreciate it

niels, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link


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