2018 World Series -- Boston Red Sox vs Los Angeles Dodgers

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Pretty shameful of Trump to imply one of his guys is a nervous wreck

Madson, who hails from Southern California, believes the idea behind the wall is to keep away terrorists – not necessarily from Mexico – who might try to infiltrate the U.S. through its southern border.

“I think the media has spun it in a way to make him look like he’s anti-immigrant, so I think it’s more their fault and how they’ve made him look than what he’s trying to do,’’ Madson said. “I don’t think he’s doing it in a way to be a Zionist. He’s not trying to seal us off from the world. He’s trying to just slow down or stop as much as he can what’s been happening here in America with the terrorists.’’

omar little, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

Pretty shameful of Trump to imply one of his guys is a nervous wreck

Madson, who hails from Southern California, believes the idea behind the wall is to keep away terrorists – not necessarily from Mexico – who might try to infiltrate the U.S. through its southern border.

“I think the media has spun it in a way to make him look like he’s anti-immigrant, so I think it’s more their fault and how they’ve made him look than what he’s trying to do,’’ Madson said. “I don’t think he’s doing it in a way to be a Zionist. He’s not trying to seal us off from the world. He’s trying to just slow down or stop as much as he can what’s been happening here in America with the terrorists.’’

omar little, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

Re: Kimbrel

-- as mentioned by KM, every Boston reliever pitched the day before, two of their best had pitched the sixth through eighth, and David Price was next in line to relieve.

-- they wanted to give Kimbrel some easy work with a big lead to keep him sharp (at least that was the intention).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

(xpost) True of Kimbrel, also, and he's more crucial than anyone else you're going to overwork. I would have sent Pomeranz out and given him a baserunner, possibly two. I know he had a lousy year, but he's presumably on the roster for a reason, for mop-up duty at least. Last night was mop-up duty.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

Anyway, thanks to Devers, it worked. And if Kimbrel pitches today and pitches well, then no harm done.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

re: the decision to pull Hill in the 7th, this quote from Roberts seems relevant:

“I had a conversation with Rich, and we talked about it. He said ‘Keep an eye on me. I’m going to give it everything I have. Let’s go hitter to hitter and just keep an eye on me.’ So right there, I know Rich did everything he could, competed, left everything out there” (https://deadspin.com/dave-roberts-helped-the-red-sox-grind-the-dodgers-into-1830056080)

according to Roberts, Hill said that during the bottom of the 6th (maybe during a mound visit? i didn't see the game)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

btw Price starts tonight, not Sale (who may be hurt worse than let on?)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 October 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

I think that guy used to play for the Blue Jays.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link

Keith Law to the contrary, Kershaw remains pretty damn erratic in the post-season. A few great starts, yes, but every time you think he's turned the corner, you're reminded that he hasn't.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link

1st pitch nice

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Monday, 29 October 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

you broke my heart in 2011 Freese, maybe you can do it to beantown

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Monday, 29 October 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

'turning the corner' must be like Learning to Handle Postseason Pressure

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 October 2018 00:45 (five years ago) link

these condescending PLAY BALL promo spots on the radio are both annoying and out of season in the Northeast

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 October 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

No, "turning the corner" would be consistently pitching well. Complicated, I know.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link

he just lacks character

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

Nice to see Price get past that--I remember him unraveling with Toronto (against the Rangers, I think) after a playoff error in right field.

As always, you have to caricature. I haven't said or even remotely implied anything of the sort. I know you like things simple: Clayton Kershaw is a great pitcher, therefore he must be a great pitcher in the postseason, not someone who's a sometimes puzzling mixture of great and not-great. Bryce Harper is an incredibly talented player at his best, therefore he must be a great player even when he's hitting .240, not a great player having a poor season. The gray area, and being able to hold two contradictory thoughts in your mind at the same time--I know that's not your thing.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

needed to cash that runner.... but it's a good thing Machado didnt hit that fly

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

It's funny how you're certain there's no mental component to it.

xps

timellison, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

not puzzling, clem, u just gotta cling to causation

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

the 'narrative' jazzbos are CONVINCED he's a choker, of course

cuz it's just gotta be

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

fwiw Harper had a well above average season in terms of offensive production (albeit not to his full potential). His defense dragged his overall value way down this year.

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link

cling to causation

What does this even mean? What cause was implied by talking about turning a corner?

timellison, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link

u just gotta cling to causation

Again, I implied nothing of the sort. I observed that his post-season pitching has been erratic. Didn't speculate on the why of it at all. It's you who clings to your one rhetorical trick: take one of the old myths that 40 years of sabermetrics has shown to be specious at best and pin it on someone for no other reason that that's what you do.

Buck Martinez called J.D. Martinez's hit a "hand-job."

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

Three hard hit outs for the Sox

timellison, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

Kershaw's up-and-downness has sometimes been in-game, like tonight. The thing I vividly remember about those Cardinal meltdowns was how untouchable he was for the first six innings, right up to the point where St. Louis broke the games open. Right now, he's in a groove (some hard-hit balls, though, yeah).

If it goes six, is Boston looking at Sale, or is he in reserve for tonight?

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:45 (five years ago) link

This is disconcerting

F# A# (∞), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

I swear Price gets a bit more gray in that chin hair each inning.

earlnash, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link

Whoever wins this game, boy I'd love for it to end sometime around 11:00.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

Thinking of switching to red dead 2 right now

F# A# (∞), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link

Kershaw's rate stats in the postseason are essentially the same as in the regular season -- with the exception of home runs. His HR rate doubles in the postseason. I don't think that's bad luck and he's pitched enough that it's not a small sample size. He has a tendency to make really bad pitches at the worst times. For instance, that pitch to Betts a few minutes ago.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link

I don't know if everyone else has Smoltz/Buck--we've got Buck Martinez and his partner here. Martinez hinted that Boston would be looking for someone other than Kimbrel to close tonight, if it comes to that. Not sure if that's just speculation or if he's talked to someone.

Not sure why Kershaw is still out there at this point (which I guess means why someone wasn't already warming up).

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link

playoff kershaw is a real thing

k3vin k., Monday, 29 October 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link

The 'playoff chocker' narrative is not only dumb, it's just super boring.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

why does he always pitch bad then

k3vin k., Monday, 29 October 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

I'll be honest, I might have had someone ready and pinch-hit for Price there, tried to break the game wide open. Going back out after you've made the third out is not ideal. I don't know exactly how precarious their bullpen situation is, though.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

the other thing with kershaw is he just isn’t the same guy anymore, playoff choking aside

k3vin k., Monday, 29 October 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

David Price known playoff chocker.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link

a choker can stop choking is the thing

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link

A CG is too much to ask, but I'd send Price out for the 8th.

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

yeah, he's locked in

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

A Maddux is within the realm of possibility--think he's got about 15 pitches to work with. I'd be astounded if he finishes the game.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

I thought a Maddux had to be a shutout.

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

You're right. I think 99 pitches/1 run is a Mike Maddux.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link

I'm sure of it now--that guy used to play for the Blue Jays.

(Was hoping Price would win MVP, but if Pearce wasn't a sure thing already, he is now.)

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link

If the score stands, Price is probably the MVP. Would make for a nice story.

(Pierce has an outside shot as well)

xpost mindmeld

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link

oh wait I misread -- you think Pearce has it in the bag. I'm not so sure.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

Price/Pearce co-MVPs, I'm calling it.

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

how is it decided?

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:42 (five years ago) link

If this holds up, I'd vote for Price myself. Good question--is there an actual vote that takes place, or do three or four league executives just huddle in the runway and pick someone?

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link

pearce has to be one of the best random midseason acquisitions i can remember. from that series in august where he single handedly destroyed the yankees it's been a great ride.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link


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