2018 World Series -- Boston Red Sox vs Los Angeles Dodgers

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cling to causation

What does this even mean? What cause was implied by talking about turning a corner?

timellison, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link

u just gotta cling to causation

Again, I implied nothing of the sort. I observed that his post-season pitching has been erratic. Didn't speculate on the why of it at all. It's you who clings to your one rhetorical trick: take one of the old myths that 40 years of sabermetrics has shown to be specious at best and pin it on someone for no other reason that that's what you do.

Buck Martinez called J.D. Martinez's hit a "hand-job."

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

Three hard hit outs for the Sox

timellison, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

Kershaw's up-and-downness has sometimes been in-game, like tonight. The thing I vividly remember about those Cardinal meltdowns was how untouchable he was for the first six innings, right up to the point where St. Louis broke the games open. Right now, he's in a groove (some hard-hit balls, though, yeah).

If it goes six, is Boston looking at Sale, or is he in reserve for tonight?

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:45 (five years ago) link

This is disconcerting

F# A# (∞), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

I swear Price gets a bit more gray in that chin hair each inning.

earlnash, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link

Whoever wins this game, boy I'd love for it to end sometime around 11:00.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

Thinking of switching to red dead 2 right now

F# A# (∞), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link

Kershaw's rate stats in the postseason are essentially the same as in the regular season -- with the exception of home runs. His HR rate doubles in the postseason. I don't think that's bad luck and he's pitched enough that it's not a small sample size. He has a tendency to make really bad pitches at the worst times. For instance, that pitch to Betts a few minutes ago.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link

I don't know if everyone else has Smoltz/Buck--we've got Buck Martinez and his partner here. Martinez hinted that Boston would be looking for someone other than Kimbrel to close tonight, if it comes to that. Not sure if that's just speculation or if he's talked to someone.

Not sure why Kershaw is still out there at this point (which I guess means why someone wasn't already warming up).

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link

playoff kershaw is a real thing

k3vin k., Monday, 29 October 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link

The 'playoff chocker' narrative is not only dumb, it's just super boring.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

why does he always pitch bad then

k3vin k., Monday, 29 October 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

I'll be honest, I might have had someone ready and pinch-hit for Price there, tried to break the game wide open. Going back out after you've made the third out is not ideal. I don't know exactly how precarious their bullpen situation is, though.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

the other thing with kershaw is he just isn’t the same guy anymore, playoff choking aside

k3vin k., Monday, 29 October 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

David Price known playoff chocker.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link

a choker can stop choking is the thing

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link

A CG is too much to ask, but I'd send Price out for the 8th.

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

yeah, he's locked in

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

A Maddux is within the realm of possibility--think he's got about 15 pitches to work with. I'd be astounded if he finishes the game.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

I thought a Maddux had to be a shutout.

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

You're right. I think 99 pitches/1 run is a Mike Maddux.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link

I'm sure of it now--that guy used to play for the Blue Jays.

(Was hoping Price would win MVP, but if Pearce wasn't a sure thing already, he is now.)

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link

If the score stands, Price is probably the MVP. Would make for a nice story.

(Pierce has an outside shot as well)

xpost mindmeld

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link

oh wait I misread -- you think Pearce has it in the bag. I'm not so sure.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

Price/Pearce co-MVPs, I'm calling it.

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

how is it decided?

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:42 (five years ago) link

If this holds up, I'd vote for Price myself. Good question--is there an actual vote that takes place, or do three or four league executives just huddle in the runway and pick someone?

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link

pearce has to be one of the best random midseason acquisitions i can remember. from that series in august where he single handedly destroyed the yankees it's been a great ride.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

As much as I dislike the Red Sox, I’m cool with Price making the Sox faithful eat crow, they draggged him in the mud last season.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link

Good for Cora. He let Price go out for the 8th and gave him a baserunner. And now you hand it over to the bullpen.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link

" is now decided during the final game of the Series by a committee of reporters and officials present at the game.[2]"

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:48 (five years ago) link

I knew I remembered that the booth jockeys get to vote.

WmC, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

thanks WmC!

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

Sale warming up!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 October 2018 02:51 (five years ago) link

Joe Kelly will now board a plane and return to his middle-management job in Anywhere, USA.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

DRoberts bringing in that hot bat Bellinger over ice cold Freese...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 October 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link

I used a database of every picture from the WDYLL threads to train an ML algorithm and the output was Joe Kelly.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 October 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link

haha

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

hahahahahahaha machado fuck you dude

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link

Machado the fitting last out.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link

Betts and Price are World Series Champs, I’ll take that.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link

i don't post here much but i do follow the sox and i will say this team had some holes despite the regular season record. cora and the analytics ppl made those holes magically disappear in the playoffs and deserve a huge amount of credit for pulling that off.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

I'm sure everyone loved seeing it end with Machado on his knees.

clemenza, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

yeah i'll add that i'm also glad for Cora.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

xpost it was **kisses fingers**

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

hey manny do you like apples

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Monday, 29 October 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

it was truly beautiful. idk what exactly is wrong with sale but he had enough in the tank for a completely sick 9th.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

*manny goes home and cries and then remembers that he’s about to get paid $300 million*

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link

I think he lost a few millions this post-season.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 29 October 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link


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