Yeah that seemed obvious
― the Warnock of Clodhop Mountain (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnCIloja5fTm73a/giphy.gif
― a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link
Maybe have an all-purpose "the Internet is full of vile hatred let's curate it here" thread
― clynical repression (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
Top 25 links of vile hatred on the internet in 2018
― sarahell, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
The stillness is the move
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link
great song
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link
Yeah i love it
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link
()
― lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UoPYv0Kq-0
― clynical repression (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
honeybunches of goatse
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
― unproven (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
he meant poc
― crüt, Friday, 9 November 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link
^ that's a good one
― flappy bird, Friday, 9 November 2018 05:57 (five years ago) link
woah woah woah no its poch, listen now
― unproven (darraghmac), Friday, 9 November 2018 07:40 (five years ago) link
owning the fallen by staying in bed
― mark s, Sunday, 11 November 2018 09:58 (five years ago) link
"the unknown troller"
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 10:10 (five years ago) link
lol
― unproven (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link
when you look up the "thread of missing Fred" and it's already locked :/
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 November 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
something something basics something something middlebrow as fuck something something not really surprising something something
― Danton Lok (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 November 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link
Morris dancers
― Frank Lloyd RONG (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 November 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link
"I am just going outside and may be some time"
― calzino, Sunday, 18 November 2018 11:23 (five years ago) link
democracy doesn't work because 50% of the population is dumber than average and 5-10% of the top half are evil/rich/psychopaths.
― StanM, Sunday, 18 November 2018 13:02 (five years ago) link
democracy doesn't work because 50% of the population is dumber than average
Lol.
― Matt DC, Monday, 19 November 2018 09:51 (five years ago) link
lmao incredible
― coetzee.cx (wins), Monday, 19 November 2018 10:23 (five years ago) link
:-) (it's the kind of thing I like to drop during a conversation just to see what reactions it gets - most people just nod, only some go: "wait, what?")
― StanM, Monday, 19 November 2018 10:40 (five years ago) link
cumtown is a homophobic podcast
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 19 November 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
b b-but dunking on gays and disabled people must be ok if these fucking brave lads of the left are doing it :O=
― calzino, Monday, 19 November 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
can't wait till those new contrapoints viewers proceed to eat up all her takes about nb people & male privilege that other trans women have been pushing back against
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 November 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
I know you second thoughted that but can you explain plz? What are her thoughts on nb ppl and male priv? Or is this just some TERF thing?
― Mordy, Monday, 19 November 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
wait is contrapoints bad
― imago, Monday, 19 November 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
Everyone is bad.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 November 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
have watched at least 45 minutes of contrapoints and am fairly confident she is good not bad
― imago, Monday, 19 November 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
There's a zero percent chance some adult men who run a podcast called Cumtown aren't total pieces of shit
― The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
oh that much is true but I'm not talking about them
― imago, Monday, 19 November 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
― Mordy, Monday, November 19, 2018 11:49 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wish i cld find a good thread or post covering these bc i'm not a trans woman myself & don't want to misrepresent intracommunity discourse, but for now-- regarding her video "the aesthetic," there's been criticism about her using the "tabby" character as a sort of strawman, & her glossing over both in the video & in a subsequent (& then subsequently deleted) thread of the violence of gender non-conformance & her describing non-passing trans women as not quite women bc of their inability to pass
shld mb clarify by "her" i mean including takes she's endorsed, e.g. the male privilege thing is in regards to cosigning andrea long chu's thread about trans women having male privilege before they transition, which... others have pointed out is unnuanced for various reasons & however true it might sometimes be is rhetoric used towards explicitly transmisogynistic ends. also cosigning a thread from alc about gender being primarily determined by how society sees you, which overlaps w "the aesthetic"
there are certainly trans women & nonbinary people who agree w natalie on most those points (including alc herself natch) but a lot that don't, & there's something not-great about cis people & people who aren't circumscribed by those debates taking those positions to be self-evident when rhetoric at the v least adjacent to them is used to justify violence
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
*by "her takes"
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
what if it's the name of their dog
― sarahell, Monday, 19 November 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
strawdog
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
oh nvm lol
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
i mean obv this isn't like a "cancelled" thing or w/e & i'm sure her videos on like incels are incisive
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
cosigning andrea long chu's thread about trans women having male privilege before they transition, which... others have pointed out is unnuanced for various reasons & however true it might sometimes be is rhetoric used towards explicitly transmisogynistic ends
oh cool i hate this argument
you're roundly otm here eric thank you
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
Thanks for the elaboration, eric. I haven't followed the response to her video on "The Aesthetic", but did find it murkier and more conflicted than many of her others. There is a risk if cis audiences are taking these to be the definitive trans perspectives.
― jmm, Monday, 19 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
There is a risk if cis audiences are taking these to be the definitive trans perspectives.
There's also a risk that some idiot will think the Tabby character is speaking directly to them, and encouraging them to hit people with a bat. Contrapoints has always been explicit about speaking for herself and only herself.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 November 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
there's always a risk when you're speaking for a marginalized or minority community that ppl will take your opinions as definitive for the community and not just your personal takes with which others can reasonably disagree but it seems to me like we should credit natalie (and ilxors maybe?) to understand the difference, esp bc taking that as an assumption ("you're speaking on behalf of X group and these ppl in that group disagree with you") is itself a conflation of the individual + collective. anyway sorry for the digression + thk you for clarifying i can definitely see how ppl might disagree w/ her on those points (tho i certainly think she's entitled to have & express them).
― Mordy, Monday, 19 November 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
her describing non-passing trans women as not quite women bc of their inability to pass
I...don't believe she did this, and I watched that video a couple of times?
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 19 November 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
it would be fine if you were talking about the mode
― sarahell, Monday, 19 November 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
love these weasel takes which i consider to be at the v least adjacent to not-great
― ogmor, Monday, 19 November 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
don't we have threads for this?
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 19 November 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
Technically we have threads for every post itt yes
― coetzee.cx (wins), Monday, 19 November 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
in the future, all events will be automatically discussed by bots that comb through old ILX posts and copy and paste things into the appropriate threads
― Karl Malone, Monday, 19 November 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link