Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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The first seems more in line with Mexican Spanish to me.

it's more complex than that. argentina they pronounce "ll" as the s in measure.

then as to whether the ll is pronounced as a palatal lateral approximate or palatal approximant or affricate - i.e. the same as "Y" see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye%C3%ADsmo

so in mexico guillermo is generally pronounced GEE YER MO

guillermo reet up ye ya bas

Gee YAIR mo (rather than yer, I think)

hard "G" too, btw

I'm gonna start calling him Jiller-moe til somebody slaps me

so yeah in theory spanish differentiates between ll, y, and i, and depending on the country the differences are more pronounced

in mexico and a few other countries, i've noticed spoken spanish makes little distinction between ll and y, especially if spoken fast, whereas a word with ll or y pronounced individually yields the proper pronunciation

i remember taking a spanish linguistics class and the prof going around having native spanish speakers pronounce specific words, and even among people from the same country, there were slight differences

anyway, this is way too specific, any of the pronunciations mentioned above would be cool with me, but gwai, gwai? WHY dawg?

actually when he first said that i thought of 鬼佬 and laughed a little internally

THat is the Japanese(?) word for western outsider innit?

Cantonese slang term for Westerners, apparently.

That's why I had the bracketed question mark in there have heard the term but wasn't 100% sure which Asian location it came from.

I was shocked to learn that Virginia Madsen and Michael Madsen are siblings.

Huh, did not know that either

michael can i get your sister email why because she look intersting

A "tube steak" is a hot dog (in its non-slang meaning)

xps

haha yeah chinese

I used to own and operate a hot dog stand and every morning homeboy in short jogging shorts and Oakleys would shout TUBE STEAKS at me

The existence of the narwhal.

(they are called 'radio buttons' btw, because they work the way old radios worked - you can only have one button pressed at a time)

― koogs, Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:45 AM

I end up writing a lot of tech-y procedures/BRDs sometimes and use the term "radio button". Half the time people will question what they are, and I always, without fail make that tune in Tokyo motion accidentally. Then I switch it to "option button" in the document.

Haven’t heard a tune in tokyo reference in like 30 years

Co-worker at the old job was the last I heard make the reference.

He was making reference to some ... heavy petting ... with his wife.

Just learned the phrase right now, though I think I've seen it in movies/TV before.

Honestly I’m surprised that tune in Tokyo never came up during the Kavanaugh hearings

That Jim Crow was not a racist state governor or some such.

xpost Are you referring to the popular drinking game by that name?

> The existence of the narwhal.

have you never seen Elf?

I have. Maybe I should have posted this on the 'natural history lessons from Elf you shockingly failed to take heed of' thread.

Unicorn of the sea innit?
Whereas the unicorn of the land was a chinese whisper about a rhino

The confusing thing about the unicorn of the sea nickname is that unicorns aren't real.

Nonsense, of course they are, they're Scotland's national animal.

> The existence of the narwhal

this reminds me of when, sometime in my mid-thirties, I was with my kids at a zoo and came across a tapir and was like 'what is this? why didn't anybody tell me about this animal?'

the greatest zoo-related experience of my life was when a tapir snuffled my hand with his prehensile l'il nose, but I was 8 or 9

bombards are ur-cannons, developed by ottomans, and fired balls of...stone?! the dardanelles gun was bronze, 5m long, and could fire marbles 63cm in diameter. it was used for like 300 years.

these mortars were used to siege and defeat constantinople.

did we ever find out what greek fire was

Nachos were invented by a man named Ignacio "Nacho" Anaya.
i leared this today.

Richard Simon, co-founder of massive publishing firm Simon & Schuster, is the father of Carly Simon. I only find this surprising to learn today as my father published books, and he had a trove of Carly LPs.

Nachos were invented by a man named Ignacio "Nacho" Anaya.
i leared this today.

― ian, Friday, November 9, 2018 4:06 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nazis were a nickname based on the proliferance of the name Ignatz in Bavaria, & subsequently they never called themselves that.
I think Ignatz and Ignacio are variations on the same name from different regions.

Nacho Nazi is therefore almost a duplication, innit.

I did not know that (I'm sure we were taught in school that "Nazi" was a contraction of National Socialist and I suppose I never questioned it.

In similar-but-less-interesting shocking learns I learned yesterday that Vaclav is Czech for Wenceslas.

I was also taught in school that it was an abbreviation of Nationalsozialist.

no no its definitely about nachos

xp it's both:

The term "Nazi" was in use before the rise of the NSDAP as a colloquial and derogatory word for a backwards farmer or peasant, characterizing an awkward and clumsy person. In this sense, the word Nazi was a hypocorism of the German male name Ignatz (itself a variation of the name Ignatius) – Ignatz being a common name at the time in Bavaria, the area from which the NSDAP emerged.

In the 1920s, political opponents of the NSDAP in the German labour movement seized on this and – using the earlier abbreviated term "Sozi" for Sozialist (English: Socialist) as an example – shortened the first part of the NSDAP's name, (Na)tionalso(zi)alistische, to the dismissive "Nazi", in order to associate them with the derogatory use of the term mentioned above.

That Hitler was a British Agent and he was assassinated by Ian Fleming. Lol, need to stop clicking on the Off Topic threads on the HTAFC site.

crimes of britain has missed a trick there!

i just learned what raclette is (not the cheese, but the cheese... eating... activity) much to my partner and best bud's horror. they were stunned that i had no idea what they were talking about, as if i had admitted i didn't know what a burger is. does everyone know what raclette is? have i had my head completely under th sand or is this obscure-ish?

fondue?

Not quite the same. Fondue is a dip whereas raclette is melted cheese that you scrape (racler in French) on top of boiled potatoes, which you then proceed to eat with charcuterie and pickles.

In my experience very few North Americans are familiar with raclette, so I'd say it's pretty obscure.

I've never heard of it fwiw.