don't believe so
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link
iirc he posted an apology on his blog for the shit he pulled and said he'd been in treatment for some time since, and I'm pretty sure there was no subsequent return to social media
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link
Ah ok.
― latebloomer, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:44 (five years ago) link
please tell us what the good jokes are!!
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.)
😈
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link
wait has Frederick B been Freddie de Boer all along????
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:45 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yo legit I thought this at one point and was extremely confused
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 November 2018 05:20 (five years ago) link
Same
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 05:46 (five years ago) link
@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE @cushbomb @willmenaker @virgiltexas @ByYourLogic Go off, king of kings. #election #Chapo, #GOAT, #HELLWORLD pic.twitter.com/DT61BU0Kbg— wojtek arciszewski (@wojrants) November 7, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
surely someone has ratted them out to twitch by now
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
tommy vietor from pod save america has added to the dogpile.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link
pod save america, the podcast whose title makes no sense
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link
also nerdstrom you just quoted a tweet from a bad irony poster
what always impressed me about UBL was his placid demeanor, the warmth in his eyes. truly the expressions of a man who is at peace with himself, and whose balls are thoroughly and regularly drained.— random content man (@FredieDeBoerWar) September 12, 2018
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link
but since pearl-clutching in a really pathetic way about this dumb podcast is your hobby continue i guess
really enjoying Trillbilly Workers' Party lately
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
they're really likeable, moreso than the chapo guys tbh
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
yeah it's an affability vs lols tradeoff, not unlike with Street Fight
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
for ppl who are into that side of things, the ChapoFYM crew are doing a 24-hour charity stream in support of Trans Lifeline starting in about half an hour
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
The latest Antifada ep gets pretty hardcore, talking to the guy who went undercover with a lot of alt-right groups and gets into why you need an actual positive political program to accompany any resistive movement
http://fans.fm/listen/4zw
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 11 November 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
I gotta say, the Dollop episode on John McCain -- which, yes, admittedly focuses on every shitty thing he ever did, at the expense of most other considerations -- not only taught me a few things I hadn't heard about or knew very little detail about, and convinced me of its thesis that he was absolutely a proto-Trump in terms of his fictitious persona and cozy media relationship. (Complete with sketchy Manafort/Russia content!)
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
i've been saving that one for a special occasion
surprised dave managed to make it to the end of the episode without suffering a fatal rage embolism tbh
― the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link
I worry about him sometimes tbh
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
convinced me of its thesis that he was absolutely a proto-Trump in terms of his fictitious persona and cozy media relationship
I think a lot of national stage politicians are closer to Trump in this regard than most people realize, it's just that the personae they create aren't as overtly outlandish
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link
John F Kennedy is a proto-Trump. Teddy Roosevelt is a proto-Trump. Pretty much everyone is a proto-Trump if it's about creating a persona and handling the media well.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
yeah, but the overt xenophobia, misogyny and corruption make it a little more apt than the average imo
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link
the only meaningful difference being that those qualities were hidden/cloaked by the persona rather than amplified by them
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
Which is kinda the thing that makes Trump Trump though.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link
No argument here
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
― Frederik B, Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:04 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well and also extreme narcissism.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
Jesse Ventura is the proto Trump, he's not a terrible guy and was an ok no governor but there are so many similarities to the phenomenon having lived through both
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
otmI remember ppl really being excited to vote for him
― gbx, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
Also Jesse's a huge narcissist and had the same relationship w/the press
issuing press passes with "media jackals" on it
https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/ventura-slams-media-unflattering-press-passes
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
god the whole thing was so nuts, i forgot about his son turning the governor's mansion into a party house
http://www.brainerddispatch.com/content/impostor-lived-governors-mansion
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
wait now i'm imagining trump having a post-presidency MMA Ref career
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
the fuckin inaugural ball with warren zevon/jesse duet
https://youtu.be/G1SYrE96mpk?list=PL8E5023F8F7BECEBD&t=316
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
god that's bizarre
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
A key difference, as bad a governor as he was, Jesse was good on some issues (transit, gay rights, abortion, the war on drugs). When he was bad, he was terrible, and he shared T’s extreme sensitivity to any criticism.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
Perot, though not an actual celeb, had the proto-Trump press sensitivity and sold himself as outsider-businessman who could come in and fix it all with business skills
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
yeah jesse was okay like i said but the combative stuff w/the press and being thin skinned was really similar
plus just the whole weird energy around his candidacy was similar
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
The Dollop having not so secretly become 50% a labor history podcast is probably Good but I can’t really stand to entertain myself with all that strike-breaking
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
It really is amazing to listen to early, carefree episodes where Dave seems practically apolitical then compare it to like, the Wells Fargo episode
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
the dollop is secretly the longform story of dave’s radicalisation
― the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
my gf likes to listen to podcasts while going to sleep and a lot of the dollop ones have really enervated me while in a delicate hypnagogic state
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
that said, the Boston Corbett episode contains maybe the single funniest moment of any podcast
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link
the gay-panic in the navy episode remains my favourite, just batshit from start to finish
― the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link
What name / # was that one? Doesn't ring a bell.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
#56, the Newport sex scandalif you haven’t heard it you’re in for a treat
― the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
I think Pareene mentioned that Reagan was just Trump who could actually stay on script and listen to his handlers
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
schwarzenegger was a weirdly decent California gov
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:30 (two days ago) Permalink
I don't love the hosts' style, but this was good. I think you can kind of make "the case against" any national politician with a long enough career, and I had previously kind of thought of John McCain that way, like, yeah he's a republican and he sucks more than people think, but he probably tries to do the right thing when he can even though his conception is flawed. After listening to this however I think he's just a shitty human being who only did the "right" thing ever for self-serving reasons. I had associated him with campaign finance reform, but now I'm thinking that was probably just part of his media strategy to cover up for how thoroughly corrupt he was.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 16 November 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link
They started out as a straightforward comedy show and have only "radicalized" gradually. The style and content are sometimes an odd fit.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
Also they ended the show with some hippie dippie shit about starting an art therapy group about global warming or something
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 16 November 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link