THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists

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“Umahlalela” is the highest scoring song of the year in The Singles Jukebox:
― breastcrawl, Thursday, November 15, 2018 12:52 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I'm disappointed this is not a cover of Mahlalela (by Letta Mbulu). Though I think it's still a traditional South African "chant". I wish there was a list / anthology somewhere of these folk songs. At least ever since I heard the soundtrack of Sarafina (which I can't resist to post two from).

Nabozo, Thursday, 15 November 2018 19:35 (one year ago) link

those simmy tracks are great

nxd, Friday, 16 November 2018 13:49 (one year ago) link

The album is on spotify now. It's good.

Frederik B, Friday, 16 November 2018 13:58 (one year ago) link

yeh it is cheers, this is lovely friday afternoon stuff

nxd, Friday, 16 November 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

Such a wonderful album. The whole stretch from “Hamba Juba” to “Ngonile” is flawless.

breastcrawl, Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:23 (one year ago) link

Such a beautiful album.

Tim F, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:50 (one year ago) link

just been listening to it all week

nxd, Friday, 23 November 2018 09:37 (one year ago) link

ummm so i was at my 10-year high school reunion tonight (lol) and fucking "akanamali" was on the playlist at the bar where it was hosted. i freaked out slightly and actually briefly asked around as to who put the playlist together. fess up, which one of you was it?!?

dyl, Saturday, 24 November 2018 06:55 (one year ago) link

Listening to this again after a few days’ hiatus, and me totally otm:

The whole stretch from “Hamba Juba” to “Ngonile” is flawless.

That seven song sequence could very well be my favorite stretch on any album this year.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:23 (one year ago) link


nxd, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:30 (one year ago) link

Video for Simmy’s “Umahlalela”:

breastcrawl, Friday, 30 November 2018 11:53 (one year ago) link

Sun-EL’s video for “Ntaba Ezikude” (featuring Simmy!) is out:

breastcrawl, Friday, 14 December 2018 06:51 (one year ago) link

Tugela Fairy also happens to be the perfect Xmas album

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 25 December 2018 02:46 (one year ago) link

Have yourself a Simmy little Christmas!

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:07 (one year ago) link

so much great music across these albums

dyl, Tuesday, 25 December 2018 05:47 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Thee Legacy (who some of you hopefully remember from Zinaro’s “Dali Wami” I posted here last year - a classic to my ears) have a song out with Mlindo and DJ Maphorisa:


breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 23:35 (one year ago) link

And yes people, this thread doubles as the Simmy thread. Perhaps a mod can change the title accordingly? How do these things work?

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 23:37 (one year ago) link

Good idea. Just start a new thread on this board:

rob, Thursday, 31 January 2019 00:26 (one year ago) link

"Thando" is lovely

ufo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:57 (one year ago) link

very nice

dyl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 05:35 (one year ago) link

Does anyone know if there's any place outside SA where I could buy a physical copy of the Simmy album? Or even a FLAC version of it? I tried to look for it but it seems the CD is only available in local record stores that don't deliver internationally, and even the digital version can only be bought in places like Amazon, which only sell MP3s.

Tuomas, Thursday, 31 January 2019 07:49 (one year ago) link

Will definitely be looking for it when I’m off to Cape Town in two weeks.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 07:50 (one year ago) link

Oh man, where are you located normally? If it's not too much to ask, I'd be willing to pay you via Paypal for the CD + mailing it to Finland + a bit extra for your troubles, if you'd manage to get a me a copy too?

Tuomas, Thursday, 31 January 2019 07:57 (one year ago) link

I’m in Oslo, so that shouldn’t be impossible. Will see what I can do!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 07:59 (one year ago) link

There’s a shop on Waterfront that should have this and more iirc.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:00 (one year ago) link

Cool, thanks a bunch! If you do manage to find it, just email me at tuomast DOT alho AT gmail DOT com (yes, it's "tuomast" with a "t" in the end) and I'll pay for you for everything.

Tuomas, Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:04 (one year ago) link

Will do!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:21 (one year ago) link

ufo, how do you feel about changing the thread title? You started this thread after all. Are you okay with it?

And what should the new title be? Keep it basic and just add “ + Simmy - Tugela Fairy”, or expand it a little?

I was thinking of “THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists”
(most of the Mlindo talk has been on the Rolling thread, but it would be a good fit obviously - and Samthing Soweto has an album coming out soon too, as someone mentioned on the roll out thread)

Or we could just go for “Sun-El and Simmy-lar stuff” lol

Any thoughts?

breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:30 (one year ago) link

changing the title to include Simmy seems like a sensible idea and i'm all for it, but if we want a thread to encompass the broader scene then maybe making a new rolling south african pop thread to encompass this stuff as well as gqom etc. would be a good idea? that's up to you though, since that'd be splitting off from the afropop thread where that discussion's mostly taken place up until now.

ufo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:20 (one year ago) link

I think this is a decent sleeper shout to top the albums poll this year, there are a lot of records that are in with a shout but the love this one generates is huge.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:40 (one year ago) link

anyway with the title change, here's "Mobi Dixon - Abantu ft. Samthing Soweto". going to have to check out Mobi Dixon's album from last year based on this, it's very upbeat afrohouse

ufo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:45 (one year ago) link

Cool! I actually like that this thread is kind of limited in scope. In a perfect ILM world we would have separate Rolling South African, Rolling Nigerian, Rolling Ghanaian, Rolling East African, etc etc threads, but with the current level of participation/enthusiasm being what it is, one catch-all Rolling Afropop thread is enough imho. We do branch out a bit when necessary with things like the Wizkid and Burna threads anyway (and with this one obviously).

breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:31 (one year ago) link

like the new thread title

the mobi dixon track is really nice, reminds me a lot of mj though i'm not sure why. i like pretty much everything that comes out of this scene, even though i tend to be hit and miss on afrobeats in general

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:37 (one year ago) link

Useful (and possibly overlooked) post by kruezer2 on the Top 77 Tracks rollout thread:

"akanamali" definitely crossed over from tsj. the discussion on his album's thread has been reasonably active all year so i think simmy's music must have come up there quite shortly after being released, no tsj-acclaim needed.

"amablesser" was nominated btw, so it could still make it! (tho honestly i doubt it would place above "ubala" et al.) i nominated it but didn't end up having room for it on my ballot lol.

"banomoya" might be my favorite of all the songs i hadn't heard before from this poll so the post upthread stating that it was a big hit in south africa tells me that i should probably just start listening to south african radio already

― dyl, Thursday, January 31, 2019 12:30 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

“AmaBlesser” was a big pop hit there too (just like “Akanamali” itself, the other Sun-El singles did very well too). The Mlindo and Simmy albums are both currently top 10 streaming in SA. It’s actual popular music. Finding the right radio station would be a treat, no doubt!


― breastcrawl, Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:51 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i listen to a couple durban stations online at times. try Ukhozi 90.8 FM or Gagasi 99.5. i don't know any stations in Joburg or Capetown though.

― Will (kruezer2), donderdag 31 januari 2019 15:43 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 02:33 (one year ago) link

Like most people, I have a bunch of playlists where I park stuff as I find it, themed playlists, on the go yadda yadda - all that 'halfway house' shit that has cropped up since streaming. This stuff is having quite the effect on me and I don't know where to put it: I kind of want an exclusive 'light caught in a slow falling drop of moisture as the sun comes out after a rain shower' micro-playlist. 'Ubala' is fucking perfect.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:14 (one year ago) link

Tugela Fairy is just heaven. Wish I could have put in a vote for it.

jmm, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:25 (one year ago) link

^^this. Umahlalela made it onto my singles ballot but didn't have time to check out the rest of the album - would definitely have voted for it if I had it.

Roz, Sunday, 3 February 2019 06:01 (one year ago) link

did not realise until now that DJ Maphorisa co-produced Drake's "One Dance" lol

ufo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 11:31 (one year ago) link

this is a really lovely track "Linda" from Sjava who is featured on Mlindo's "Egoli" and was also on the Black Panther soundtrack, it's similar to Mlindo's music but with sun-drenched sax the whole way through

currently listening to his album from December Umqhele and it's alright but he has a tendency to let tracks go on for far longer than they really need to and i definitely prefer the chill r&b tracks to the relatively generic trap ones

ufo, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 10:38 (one year ago) link

Mobi Dixon's album 10 Steps Forward is really great on first listen. it starts off in smooth SA house territory with the 9 minute title track (above) which is a real highlight, and tracks like an extended mix of "Abantu" (linked earlier), before moving into harder-hitting gqom for the middle of the album

ufo, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 13:05 (one year ago) link

Sjava interview on the Fader starts out with a o_O

You just dropped an album about a month ago, how has it been?

I think people like it. But I didn’t like it. It’s the label that decided to drop it. I was not ready.

Are you serious?

I think it’s the whackest thing I’ve ever done.

rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:32 (one year ago) link

lol omg. i'll def have to listen

"one dance" is a good song!

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 05:12 (one year ago) link

Proudly presenting the brand new Prince Kaybee. It’s a bit of a throwback to the sound of his first album, so it actually fits on this thread:

Prince Kaybee ft. Msaki • Fetch Your Life

breastcrawl, Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:15 (one year ago) link

was listening to Sjava and I realized I recognized his voice from the Black Panther soundtrack. The song he's on "Reasons," has a couple of American rappers on it, but it seems like Sjava's is the dominant style:

simmy simmy ya, simmy yam simmy yay (voodoo chili), Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:38 (one year ago) link

d'oh the song on the BP soundtrack is called "Seasons" and features the rapper Reason.

Anyway, I dove into the Sjava album and it's taking over my world right now. Sjava not otm

sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:41 (one year ago) link

To be fair to the guy, he wraps the interview up like this:

So, in an ideal world, looking at the album as it is, what would you tweak?

Nothing really. It is what it is.

breastcrawl, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:51 (one year ago) link

I’m still stuck at that Umphako EP he was talking about, “Intombi” in particular.

breastcrawl, Friday, 8 February 2019 18:07 (one year ago) link

I organized a small battle between two of my favourite tracks right now. It’s over here: Gqompetition time: two songs, two videos - QDOT vs SHADO M
Feel free to take a look and participate!

breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 February 2019 18:25 (one year ago) link

This is a great track, and yes, it’s from 2017:

Kaylow feat. DJ Mdix • Isgubhu

breastcrawl, Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

But who am I kidding? I really came to post these mixes Sun-El did for South African radio station 5FM. I just found out he did three 30-minute mixes, one in December and two just recently. And guess what, most of it is new stuff: some instrumental tracks, several tracks with Simmy (!), and some remixes of stuff by others (such as Black Coffee). It’s a lot to take in! (let me just say I can’t wait for him to drop “Indodana” featuring Berita.)
I will post the links from his Soundcloud (which include track listings). The mixes (01 and 03 at least) can also be found on YouTube.

breastcrawl, Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:46 (one year ago) link

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