millenial nostalgia songs (aren't what they used to be) *NO PHONE ALERT*

new wave seemed verboten to a lot of Gen X bands - Cobain and Corgan recording Devo and Missing persons covers and having to justify it, Hole covering "The Killing Moon" and Malkmus walking up to Love afterward "you're so brave for that."

Lol I wonder if that influenced Pavement's "Killing Moon" cover.

I didn't know this until recently, but I guess a similar thing happened in the early '80s when every radio station that used to play hits from the BeeGees essentially banned their music for a few years.

This started in 1979, around the time Spirits Having Flown was released. The Saturday Night Fever Songs were still on the radio constantly through 1978, then a new Bee Gees album came out, its songs were ubiquitous, and so some stations advertised "no Bee Gees!" weekends. This also roughly coincided with the racist and homophobic Disco Demolition in Chicago.

"Dynamic Calories" was a great new wave tribute by Malkmus

bojack horseman did a pretty fun take on 2007--intentionally obvious and over-the-top, but still: https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2016/08/03/03-home-loans-bojack.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.2x.jpg
― twin sinema (voodoo chili), Tuesday, November 20, 2018 12:04 PM

Now with sassy butt phrases!

Perhaps worth mentioning that the Bee Gees blacklist of the early '80s failed to keep out a number of records that were pretty much Bee Gees incognito, such as Streisand's "Woman in Love," Dionne Warwick's "Hearbreaker," and Kenny & Dolly's "Islands in the Stream"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/arts/music/indie-rock-walking-tour-manhattan.html

new wave seemed verboten to a lot of Gen X bands - Cobain and Corgan recording Devo and Missing persons covers and having to justify it

eh I dunno this came out in 1992
https://img.discogs.com/yqGnrfXl_ioW583NV0KZYvxWIsY=/fit-in/600x591/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-839350-1273804434.jpeg.jpg

also fwiw I used to go to an 80s club night mostly playing early-mid 80s new wave quite often from '94 on and apparently the night started in '91/92, so 80s retro was happening as soon as the 80s finished, at least in provincial England.

Yeah I don’t remember there ever really being a “backlash” against ‘80s hits / New Wave.

(Notwithstanding what I said above, about ppl being all, “Eww, the Eighties,” even as they were still ending... that didn’t really apply to music.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOV5WXISM24

Y'all remember this one?

Gotta say, Calvin Harris' huge dork -> EDM heart-throb transition is inspiring.

I hate hate hate that Eliza Doolittle song posted way upthread - nobody is nostalgic for cassettes inherently but the music that was on them and it's weird to pretend that the medium is the part you think of fondly

like I wish I hadn't thrown away all the cassettes I had when I was six years old of all the songs I taped off the radio but that's because I think they would be interesting snapshots of my taste then, if I want to listen to music from 1994 I can just... listen to music from 1994

it's weird to me that people use "Baby One More Time" as a signifier of the 90s because it wasn't released in the UK til Feb 99 and that seems particularly late for a song to define a decade. But in a personal perspective it doesn't help that I started high school in 99 so I think of primary school as the 90s and secondary/uni as the noughties

I think of the early ‘90s (1990-‘93), mid ‘90s (‘94-‘97), and late ‘90s (‘98-‘99) as very discrete chunks, music-wise.

(Or maybe early/mid are kinda fluid, but late ‘90s definitely their own thing.)

"2002" is a banger.

it wasn't released in the UK til Feb 99 and that seems particularly late for a song to define a decade

i think it's common for songs/culture from 1959, 1969 & 1979 to define or symbolize their respective decades in retro media. and i get what you mean because i actually got to live through 1999 and consume its culture firsthand whereas i did not with those 3 other years.

for whatever reason i definitely think of 1999-2001 as its own separate block of pop culture that does not feel aligned with the '90s or the '00s.

I agree with that - 99-01 in Britain at least definitely feels like its own unique era. Not least because its the garage era and for years that's been the equivalent of the heyday of disco, the bit that producers reach back into when they want a handy dose of nostalgia. It's been happening for years and is probably on the way out now.

More generally there's a song on the new Little Mix album that quotes from Livin La Vida Loca, the Thong Song and Mis-Teeq's Scandalous. It's shamelessness is offset by the fact that it works.

I'd never heard that Smashing Pumpkins cover of "Destination Unknown," it's awful

there's probably a proper thread for the transition period or interzone of the late 90s and early 00s, which i associate mainly with saturated, sunny, big-budget videos in pop, hip-hop, and rock alike - and yet also with the nu-metal peak and all its visual and sonic angst. lot of stars whose careers or cultural impact didn't really get escape velocity from that era. whether you wind it up with 9/11 or the iraq war as non-musical landmarks seems to be an open question.

this thread is where i first bumped into this notion (framed as a "mini-decade"): The song that represents the END of the 90s as silly as "decade" stuff is, i think if you're gonna play that game you do need this mini-decade cause otherwise neither the "90s" or the "00s" add up to a coherent and unitary whole.