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the ballads could have worked to close ILIWYS but they just weren't as strong songs as the most of the album so it was an underwhelming ending. the closing trio on this one are fantastic though, if they want to do ballads then please more like those, or more like the synth ballads from the EPs which are still some of their best songs

ufo, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link

Mansun mention otm, get kind of a Little Kix vibe from some of this

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

I can imagine them covering Forgive Me, almost

imago, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

Has anyone said Her for the movie thing. That might work.

gman59, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

it's a little odd that this album's the real critical breakthrough when the last one was better and a bigger step up, but i guess that lead to more critics taking them seriously this time?

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 06:14 (five years ago) link

^^ this has always been a thing, i think, although i also feel like i'm seeing it a bit more these days: critics, *very* generally speaking, really latching on to a great band approximately one album "late"

alpine static, Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:23 (five years ago) link

BNM'd (8.5): https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-1975-a-brief-inquiry-into-online-relationships/

2 points up from their previous LP, so it checks out.

pomenitul, Thursday, 29 November 2018 09:33 (five years ago) link

Holy Shit! I had absolutely no idea who Matty's parents were until reading that Pitchfork review.

groovypanda, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link

Definitely there will be critical reactions to this album that reflect critics belatedly putting aside their prima facie assumptions about this band too late to get published articles about the second album.

But I would go further and say that I don't even really feel like the second album was a "step up" in a strong sense. Perhaps it seemed like one relative to the first album's laser eighties pop focus. But this band's capacities and proclivities have been fairly well established since the IV ep at the latest. They're still trying to find ways to top "Me" and "fallingforyou".

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:16 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

the second album was a big step up in every way from the debut - songwriting, production, ambition, musical range. the debut wasn't bad or anything but it was just very solid pop rock for the most part with only a few hints of the sort of range they'd displayed on the EPs, though that's understandable though since the EP tracks were written after the debut was. they'd definitely demonstrated what they were capable of between the EPs and debut but then fully delivered on that and more on ILIWYS

but i completely agree that they've still yet to top Me and fallingforyou at that particular thing, those were the tracks that initially hooked me on this band

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

No you're right - I meant more that ILIWYS only seemed *surprising* if one ignored the EP material. I agree it's a much more ambitious album than the debut.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6

From Lennon to New Order, 90 percent of artists write about drugs. It's all they know besides pillow density at a Radisson vs Courtyard Marriott

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

i have always been correct about the 1975

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:20 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i told her i only use it sometimes"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

Holy Shit! I had absolutely no idea who Matty's parents were until reading that Pitchfork review.

― groovypanda, Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:44 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The arts are pretty much a rich kids thing now

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:20 AM (three hours ago)

hmmmmmmmmmm

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

pretty surprised this is not up on streaming services yet with all the glowing reviews pouring in

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

Drug is the love and I neeeeed to score

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

AND I'D LOVE IT IF WE MADE IT https://t.co/fKqyFxSHO0

— Mark Pytlik (@markpytlik) November 29, 2018

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

lmao

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

that is a good ass tweet

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLrqm8F7TgM

this is the bonus track on the japanese release of the album. it's also an old solo matty song

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

thank u, the 1975.

Nourry, Thursday, 29 November 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

oh man that’s good

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

Wow, if I didn't read that (weirdly short/incomplete?) Pitchfork review I don't think I would have picked up on the now blatantly obvious Joy Division nod in "Give Yourself a Try." Certainly when we devised that huge list of comparisons that came up discussing the last record I doubt any of us expected to see Joy Division added to the litany.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

lmao at P4K bnm'ing this

single bed mentality (||||||||), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

I doubt any of us expected to see Joy Division added to the litany.

me, in the very first post: post-punk tendencies

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

WHAT ABOUT

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

THEEEEESE FEEEEEEEELINGS

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

i've got

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

which i wrote bc the bass line in "sex" reminded me of post-punk

xp

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

What if they pull a Sufjan and never release Notes on a Conditional Form or whatever it's supposed to be called

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

i v v v much hope they release it because i've been realizing how much a brief inquiry is blasted with daylight, and i really want to hear nighttime side

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

*looks both ways and speaks in a low whisper* i chatted w matty a few weeks ago and he was pretty adamant that the album will be coming out when they say... i had asked him about roy hargrove and he said roy played on a song that will be on the next album, but i also got the sense that the album making process is very fluid and i wouldn't put a ton of stock in the way he's described that album in the press so far

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

oh yeah i don't actually expect to get the night bus 1975 record i want

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

i'm thrilled hargrove is on another 1975 song, that rules

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

he mentioned on twitter that track is "Frail State of Mind"

ufo, Thursday, 29 November 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

i gotta ask: how is Matty as an interview?

alpine static, Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

I don't think anyone itt has interviewed him but there are like 20 matty interviews that have been published this week that can give you an idea

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

oh I obviously don't read ignore me please

k3vin k., Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

i loved interviewing him way back in 2013. he had an infectious enthusiasm for everything that came up in our conversation. he's very smart but not very good at thinking about what he says before he says it lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

man the joy division rip sailed past me somehow ... i think it's one of their more ingenuous lifts because the tone of the song is so different, good example of reinventing the familiar

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

pretty funny to be the one who's like 'pshh this is a blue nile bite' / 'holy shit that was joy division'

ilx is a special place

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

I thought Joy Division but also late '00s TV on the Radio.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

you all are talking about the first album right? because I don't hear that at all on the second album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

im talking about this new album which literally takes a riff from "Disorder" for "Give Yourself a Try"

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

No, I know, (though I think you mean Disorder?). I'm talking about folks like Brad, in the very first post, mentioning post-punk and I guess meaning joy division, and Alfred mentioning Joy Division as well. It'ss obvious in that quote on the new album, I've just never really noticed it in their music before.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link


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