^^ same
recently i was chatting with a person i knew was my junior (but not by how much) about van halen and i was like "yeah i never really got into them" and he posited "i think you needed to grow up in the 80s to be able to enjoy them" and i felt compelled to -- and did lightheartedly -- tell this person that i did grow up in the 80s, i just thought van halen were dumb and gross. it was funny. he may have been surprised that i am older than he thought but it was not a huge thing. just a little lol at van halen's expense.
i always choose not to feel bad about being older than other people. as for young people not knowing stuff, i like being useful and i am a teacher so it's not an affront when students don't know who jimi hendrix is. i can teach them. that is my job. :)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
oops that same was to sarahell i was indeed a much bigger fuckup than most of the young people i encounter these days
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
also they don't even teach kids how sex works in school, it's no surprise they don't understand state legislatures
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
also stuff like the cost of housing where I live and the cost of higher education/student loan debt -- younger ppl have it harder than I did.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
I just feel awkward about it, like uh oh am I doing the cranky old white male mansplaining thing by telling you about how important Kraftwerk were in the development of that shitty electronic dance music you like so much
also I am not a teacher tbf
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
just be cool manthey can google kraftwerk, they don't need you
my only moment of that feeling was when i was at a show organized by some very young people and i said something about Can and they were like who's that and i wigged and excitedly told them about Can...and then maybe a day or two later I realized they may have been just fucking with me and they wanted to see the old lady wig out and i felt stupid. but whatever. so i feel stupid? i can't let that bother me. i didn't hurt anyone. i just wigged about Can. that's human.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
what's Can
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
Can is a bandGoogle "can band"
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
see how cool i was that time
Suzi Quatro's side project.
― Chequers Plays Pop (snoball), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
they are a band who had a song called Can Can. google "can can can" if you want to know more
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link
I think it's cooler when ppl excitedly explain to me the things I don't know about than when they ask me to look it up
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link
fwiw
keep telling ppl about bands LL it's good
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d65oQPTYI4o
^these vids friggin blew my mind
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link
yeah me tooi just had this terrible feeling that they did know and they were laughing at me while i was being happy and excitedthat's just mean
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
I had this weird job once setting up 4merican 4pparel stores on the east coast and The Clash came on the soundsystem and a worker asked me who it was. I gave a quick summary (punk, London, 70s/early 80s), and she said "oh, like The Beatles." I just nodded.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
aw, that's tender. i love teaching young people about music.it's literally part of my job!! having students who are a blank slate and willing to listen >>>>> students who think they know everything and test you just to be assholes
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
I'm just gonna tell every kid I meet that I'm Damo Suzuki
― itsabot! (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link
the kids in that video actually knew more than I expected! interesting to hear all the off-the-wall ways they came in contact with some of these songs (Perks of Being a Wallflower soundtrack, Jonas Brothers cover, Just Dance).
― evol j, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
the title -- DO TEENS KNOW 80s MUSIC? (REACT: Do They Know It?) -- almost seems like a deliberate Bojack parody (Hollywoo Stars and Celebrities: What Do They Know? Do They Know Things?? Let's Find Out!)
― evol j, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
Not surprisingly, all the featured teens in the video are vivacious and good-looking. Therefore, a representative sample of "TEENS" who might "KNOW 80s MUSIC".
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
doing karaoke with young people (late 20s/early 30s) is a trip!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
i'm told that the kids are into 'frasier' now; this is where they lost me
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
karaoke is where you really see generational differences re music nostalgia
― sarahell, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
Apparently "Friends" is a thing with the kids today. My partner teaches high school English, and her students bring it up often (with the occasional "were the '90s really like that?" question).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link
Still think Frasier's boilerplate "overheard / misunderstood" plot is just Three's Company with better vocabulary and actors.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link
yeah, in grad school, we had to write a script for an episode of Frasier, and it was pretty much that
― sarahell, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
I refuse to countenance the idea that Kelsey of the Dark Secrets Grammar is a better comic actor than John Ritter
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
Haha, point taken. I'm thinking more of David Hyde Pierce's comic timing.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link
everyone always thinks i'm younger than i am which most people think is great but the flipside is that i get passed over for jobs that other, more wrinkly colleagues somehow just seem more suited for and the other thing is that i'm gonna die way before people are expecting
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
i look younger than i am too and it always stings when people comment on it because if looking young is what is good about me, i can expect that not to last long. it's like getting an extension on an assignment; the assignment (looking older) is coming it's just not here quite yet. it'll be here eventually.
otherwise i don't mind.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
All sorts of shit is big with my kids. The US version of the Office, Friends, Glee. Grey's Anatomy. Whatevs, if it makes them happy.Couple of months until I turn 44. Feels fine so far. Got a nice mostly gray beard.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
"was the 90s really like that?"
to my own consternation, I don't even understand the question
― itsabot! (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link
I fully support the youngins being into Frasier.
I will be 41 a month from today and I am excited about it! I’ve never felt better about myself or more comfortable in my own skin. Tbh I think I look better now than I did when I was 20. I like aging so far and I’m excited about the woman I’m becoming.
I dye my hair so I have no idea how much of it is grey but I def get a couple in my bangs that I pluck. No big deal.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link
To Tracer’s point - I made a point of telling people my age at my last job once I realized they thought I was a lot younger and were treating me differently as a result.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link
That REACT vid link gave me a few laughs, being right in the same age range as their parents, playing The Cure and trying to influence my nephew with my tastes. I liked how open they seemed to the music, not derisive, but genuinely appreciative and/or bemused.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 29 November 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link
Whatever age the protagonist of Hey Nineteen is, that’s the age I aspire to and am in my mind
― calstars, Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link
Sometimes it bums me out to realize when Hey Nineteen was released Fagen/Becker were 32 and 30, respectively. I’m the same amount older than them as they were to the 19 yr old.
― omar little, Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link
32 in the '70s is like 65 today so don't worry
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link
"Hey 38" would be the new version
hey 38that's Lily Allen
― omar little, Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link
(too recent actually....)
"hey 40, that's ella mai..."
― pplains, Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link
I will say that one unalloyed good of gender transition is that I dont look like a 49 year old man, I look like a maybe early 40s woman.
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link
I'm 44 and for years looked younger than I was but my beard is now 50% grey and gives it away. I've lived in college towns for years and when the places that got busted multiple times for selling to underage kids and are now super paranoid about checking IDs stop carding you, you look old.
I teach university students though which is a fascinating window into young people who get younger every year to the point that now my students have little to no recollection of September 11th happening because they were all 2-4 years old at the time and grew up with Marvel movies the way I did with Star Wars.
What's retro and cool to them is also a trip; my neighbor's kid and her friends are 14 or so and obsessed with the TV show Friends, and dressed as Friends characters for Halloween and carved the Friends logo onto a pumpkin. And in my design class I had a student talk about the design of Stranger Things which led to class discussion about 80s type and design and one of them asking "in the 80s, did everyone KNOW how 80s they looked?"
I told her that someday they would make a movie about now and the actors would be wearing yoga pants and North Face jackets and riding scooters and they all looked totally horrified.
― joygoat, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link
In less than two years Hey Nineteen could be about someone born on 9/11
― omar little, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link
"in the 80s, did everyone KNOW how 80s they looked?"I feel like they kinda did!
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 29 November 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link
This was definitely the case for me at UCI in re shifting perceptions of cultural baselines. I get less of it now at my current UCSF job but the volunteers I oversee provide a small lifeline there.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2018 05:50 (five years ago) link
I remember in the 80s thinking "we are the new thing, we're making the 80s its own style" and then I wore a pink denim jacket, grey stone wash baggy jeans and a thin black leather tie to my year 10 formal dinner ... oh and grey leather shoes dear god.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 29 November 2018 06:46 (five years ago) link
heh i had someone recently compliment a sweater i was wearing as being "on trend" or something similar, and I said, "thanks, I've had this since the 80s"
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:05 (five years ago) link
I feel like they kinda did!
agreed
― mookieproof, Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:15 (five years ago) link