the 1975

Definitely there will be critical reactions to this album that reflect critics belatedly putting aside their prima facie assumptions about this band too late to get published articles about the second album.

But I would go further and say that I don't even really feel like the second album was a "step up" in a strong sense. Perhaps it seemed like one relative to the first album's laser eighties pop focus. But this band's capacities and proclivities have been fairly well established since the IV ep at the latest. They're still trying to find ways to top "Me" and "fallingforyou".

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

the second album was a big step up in every way from the debut - songwriting, production, ambition, musical range. the debut wasn't bad or anything but it was just very solid pop rock for the most part with only a few hints of the sort of range they'd displayed on the EPs, though that's understandable though since the EP tracks were written after the debut was. they'd definitely demonstrated what they were capable of between the EPs and debut but then fully delivered on that and more on ILIWYS

but i completely agree that they've still yet to top Me and fallingforyou at that particular thing, those were the tracks that initially hooked me on this band

No you're right - I meant more that ILIWYS only seemed *surprising* if one ignored the EP material. I agree it's a much more ambitious album than the debut.

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6

From Lennon to New Order, 90 percent of artists write about drugs. It's all they know besides pillow density at a Radisson vs Courtyard Marriott

i have always been correct about the 1975

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:20 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i told her i only use it sometimes"

Holy Shit! I had absolutely no idea who Matty's parents were until reading that Pitchfork review.

― groovypanda, Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:44 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The arts are pretty much a rich kids thing now

Also I have decided that all the songs on this album that purportedly are about cheating ("TootimeX3", "Be My Mistake") are actually about heroin.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:20 AM (three hours ago)

hmmmmmmmmmm

pretty surprised this is not up on streaming services yet with all the glowing reviews pouring in

Drug is the love and I neeeeed to score

AND I'D LOVE IT IF WE MADE IT https://t.co/fKqyFxSHO0

— Mark Pytlik (@markpytlik) November 29, 2018

lmao

that is a good ass tweet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLrqm8F7TgM

this is the bonus track on the japanese release of the album. it's also an old solo matty song

thank u, the 1975.

oh man that’s good

Wow, if I didn't read that (weirdly short/incomplete?) Pitchfork review I don't think I would have picked up on the now blatantly obvious Joy Division nod in "Give Yourself a Try." Certainly when we devised that huge list of comparisons that came up discussing the last record I doubt any of us expected to see Joy Division added to the litany.

lmao at P4K bnm'ing this

I doubt any of us expected to see Joy Division added to the litany.

me, in the very first post: post-punk tendencies

WHAT ABOUT

THEEEEESE FEEEEEEEELINGS

i've got

which i wrote bc the bass line in "sex" reminded me of post-punk

xp

What if they pull a Sufjan and never release Notes on a Conditional Form or whatever it's supposed to be called

i v v v much hope they release it because i've been realizing how much a brief inquiry is blasted with daylight, and i really want to hear nighttime side

*looks both ways and speaks in a low whisper* i chatted w matty a few weeks ago and he was pretty adamant that the album will be coming out when they say... i had asked him about roy hargrove and he said roy played on a song that will be on the next album, but i also got the sense that the album making process is very fluid and i wouldn't put a ton of stock in the way he's described that album in the press so far

oh yeah i don't actually expect to get the night bus 1975 record i want

i'm thrilled hargrove is on another 1975 song, that rules

he mentioned on twitter that track is "Frail State of Mind"

i gotta ask: how is Matty as an interview?

I don't think anyone itt has interviewed him but there are like 20 matty interviews that have been published this week that can give you an idea

oh I obviously don't read ignore me please

i loved interviewing him way back in 2013. he had an infectious enthusiasm for everything that came up in our conversation. he's very smart but not very good at thinking about what he says before he says it lol

man the joy division rip sailed past me somehow ... i think it's one of their more ingenuous lifts because the tone of the song is so different, good example of reinventing the familiar

pretty funny to be the one who's like 'pshh this is a blue nile bite' / 'holy shit that was joy division'

ilx is a special place

I thought Joy Division but also late '00s TV on the Radio.

you all are talking about the first album right? because I don't hear that at all on the second album.

im talking about this new album which literally takes a riff from "Disorder" for "Give Yourself a Try"

No, I know, (though I think you mean Disorder?). I'm talking about folks like Brad, in the very first post, mentioning post-punk and I guess meaning joy division, and Alfred mentioning Joy Division as well. It'ss obvious in that quote on the new album, I've just never really noticed it in their music before.

haha, that is so weird, I could have sworn you said She's Lost Control. But yeah, Disorder.

you all are talking about the first album right? because I don't hear that at all on the second album.

― Josh in Chicago,

"Give Yoruself a Try." I referred to the drum machine and screech guitar in the first thirty seconds or so. I thought of "Dancing Choose."

the post-punk thing re: the first album was almost certainly referring to "Sex"

yep, and pretty much only “sex”

but it’s there! imo. lol

it's a little odd that this album's the real critical breakthrough when the last one was better and a bigger step up, but i guess that lead to more critics taking them seriously this time?

― ufo, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:14 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Without having heard the album or any of the tracks released on Youtube yet - I will of course be rectifying this tomorrow - I'm getting the general feeling that (critics aside) reactions are far more cooler and less enthusiastic on this album in comparison to the previous one, and the high critic scores are some kind of Be Here Now-level overcorrection due to them underrating ILIWYS...

Pretty sure I like the last one better.

it's still excellent, just a little more inconsistent than the last one. hardly a Be Here Now situation

I'm also beginning to see pissed off comments dotted around the internet from people claiming to be long-time fans who don't seem to be into the idea of the band expanding their fanbase...

I dunno, it feels weirdly like "the backlash starts here" in a way...

i don't think "the backlash starts here" really applies to a band that people have really really loved to hate right from the start