the 1975

im talking about this new album which literally takes a riff from "Disorder" for "Give Yourself a Try"

No, I know, (though I think you mean Disorder?). I'm talking about folks like Brad, in the very first post, mentioning post-punk and I guess meaning joy division, and Alfred mentioning Joy Division as well. It'ss obvious in that quote on the new album, I've just never really noticed it in their music before.

haha, that is so weird, I could have sworn you said She's Lost Control. But yeah, Disorder.

you all are talking about the first album right? because I don't hear that at all on the second album.

― Josh in Chicago,

"Give Yoruself a Try." I referred to the drum machine and screech guitar in the first thirty seconds or so. I thought of "Dancing Choose."

the post-punk thing re: the first album was almost certainly referring to "Sex"

yep, and pretty much only “sex”

but it’s there! imo. lol

it's a little odd that this album's the real critical breakthrough when the last one was better and a bigger step up, but i guess that lead to more critics taking them seriously this time?

― ufo, Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:14 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Without having heard the album or any of the tracks released on Youtube yet - I will of course be rectifying this tomorrow - I'm getting the general feeling that (critics aside) reactions are far more cooler and less enthusiastic on this album in comparison to the previous one, and the high critic scores are some kind of Be Here Now-level overcorrection due to them underrating ILIWYS...

Pretty sure I like the last one better.

it's still excellent, just a little more inconsistent than the last one. hardly a Be Here Now situation

I'm also beginning to see pissed off comments dotted around the internet from people claiming to be long-time fans who don't seem to be into the idea of the band expanding their fanbase...

I dunno, it feels weirdly like "the backlash starts here" in a way...

i don't think "the backlash starts here" really applies to a band that people have really really loved to hate right from the start

The backlash starts here... with Turrican. To the barricades!

I doubt there will be a backlash, the album's close enough to the last one that I can't imagine they lose a single fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7HXmzxqV8

a hidden Healy influence, I'd say

Yes, but quite a fair few of those people that loved to hate them - and I was one of them to the point of being such a painful bastard about it - eventually became converts!

However, I'm more referring to those that loved them from the very beginning. For a band to divide opinion as radically as The 1975 did, it must have led to a certain kind of underdog status in the eyes of many who loved the band, or as "underdog" as a band of their size could be. The kind of mass acceptance that is threatening to happen with this record kinda removes that.

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they’ve always been a huge band, they’ve been selling out shows since even before the debut. so i have no idea what you’re on about

if fans are pissed about critics finally picking up on them... who cares? why are we even talking about these strawpeople

In my case, I personally couldn't give a shit about any of that stuff as a recent convert. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the new material at the very least.

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most of the fans i know who have been in the tank since the eps are delighted with this record and happy for the band for finally getting critical recognition

Well yeah, this is what I've just said - they've always been a big band (and even then I keep forgetting just how well their debut did in the US) but a very divisive one.

most of the fans i know who have been in the tank since the eps are delighted with this record and happy for the band for finally getting critical recognition

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:13 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In that case, it's reassuring to know that there are fans sticking with them as they pick up new ones.

As for the record itself, I'll make comment on that when I actually hear it.

I did listen to ILIWYS twice today, though.

Those who have heard the album: is there anything as good as 'Paris' on here?

*there.

I agree with what was said above about the last two tracks on ILIWYS, btw. There's nothing wrong with them at all, but the more I listen to that album, the more that 'Paris' feels like the true album closer and 'Nana' and 'She Lays Down' feel more like bonus tracks or an extended P.S.

Also, 'Pressure' from their first LP rules.

why is turrican still allowed on this thread

"i couldn't be more in love" is the greatest song ever made

I wouldn't go quite that far but it finally clicked for me this morning (I think my 6th listen to the album, at 5am, after a restless night with a nasty sore throat); up until now Surrounded by Heads and Bodies/Mine/I Couldn't Be More in Love had felt a bit disappointing but something about listening to them in the quiet early morning made them stand out in a way that they hadn't before.

I still don't like "Be My Mistake" though; otoh I tend to skip the last two songs on ILIWYS, I think the acoustic ballads are mostly their weakest songs.

Of the songs that weren't out before the album, I Like America & America Likes Me/Inside Your Mind/I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes) are A++++. I would quite like to hear a version of Inside Your Mind with production more like Me, though (more synths, less piano).

I'm actually OK with The Man Who Married a Robot, it's about as good as a Siri-narrated story about an internet troll could be, I guess.

first listen verdict: feels like a massive step down from ILIWYS tbh

nearly 20 minutes shorter but so much more of a slog

on my first listen now....not sure what to make of “surrounded by heads and bodies” yet...overall there are a lot of slow songs

“how to draw/petrichor” is like the trip hop cousin of “the ballad of me and my brain” and it bangs

lol happy 1975 day i guess. stick with it lj

I will say in LJ’s defense that the singles seem to be the best songs here, or at least the most immediate. though I expect the slower ones to grow on me

didn’t like the intro on first listen which is sad because I loved the first two

the cool thing about the album is you can skip the slow ones because they're clumped at the end

I will persist with it but I did immediately listen to ILIWYS afterwards and it was like waking up. Still if it makes me like that album more it's not a total loss

i burned the hell out of the singles which is making the full album spin less appetizing. skipping around a lot.

my mistake is the one i really cant get into. heads and bodies is the one thats grown most. haunting.

im so confused by people who didn't hear the joy division rip? it was the first thing i heard and it bugged me. and i don't know shitr about music! also bugged me when they started that one song exactly like lcd soundsystem.

yeah I do wonder whether releasing all those singles so early in the process was a wise move when they’re arguably the best songs on the record, but I guess that kind of a rollout is part of the territory with a band as big as them

pretty funny to be the one who's like 'pshh this is a blue nile bite' / 'holy shit that was joy division'

ilx is a special place

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:10 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i think "give yourself a try" is executed on a much higher level than "love it if we made it," or maybe i just like "the downtown lights" a lot more than i like "disorder"

i do look forward to one day hearing a 1975 record where i haven’t already heard 30-40 percent of it. but they’ve done this for every album

the cool thing about the album is you can skip the slow ones because they're clumped at the end

― I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, November 30, 2018 7:31 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah sure skip the george michael section of the record

the lcd soundsystem quote on "sex" was way more irritating because they didn't do anything with it, it's just a direct lyrical and melodic quote that really stands out awkwardly

"love it if we made it", while an intended reference to "the downtown lights" isn't a direct rip or anything and goes in a very different direction to anything the blue nile have done. it's certainly one of the album's highlights.

while the singles are definitely some of the strongest tracks there's also others that are just as great - "how to draw/petrichor", "i couldn't be more in love" and "i always wanna die" especially - i don't understand complaints about the end of the record, that's the best part.

i look forward to the hype cycle restarting in only two months

i get whiplash listening to this one in a way that i really didn't with the last one--the audacity is impressive, the sequencing could be a little less jarring

the run of the last four tracks is easily my favorite part of the record now. “surrounded by heads and bodies” IS haunting. curious that this is the second band (cf. foxing) i’ve heard trying to access hail to thief-era radiohead this year

“give yourself a try” I like a lot, and more than any of the new songs it seems to me like a an updated take on something from their first album, which I have been pretty obsessed with lately. but to me “love it if we made it” is just on another level, something I could have never seen them pulling off or even trying 5 years ago (despite the hook being kind of a self-bite of “robbers” lol)

that said over the past week I think “it’s not living” has become my favorite of the new songs, just an absolutely perfect pop song. you get the feeling matty could write ten of these in a week and put out the best album of parallel-universe alphabeat songs ever

Xp it’s funny, I thought of Foxing when I heard this too. It’s funny that Alfred points out the TVOTR comparison here, cause I thought of them on my first few listens of the Foxing LP

The spectacular confidence of "It's Not Living" gives me shivers.

the intro of give yourself a try is super close to disorder i don't see how that's debatable i mean just sing "i got the spirit but lose the feeling" over it

xp unquestionably the album highlight for me

i think it's funny that they directly quoted disorder after matty previously talking in interviews about how he didn't really feel any connection to the musical legacy of manchester at all

lol agreed