Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

fuck, owned

holy water????

Holy water has also been believed to ward off or act as a weapon against mythical evil creatures, such as vampires. In eastern Europe, one might sprinkle holy water onto the corpse of a suspected vampire in order to destroy it or render it inert.[38][39] Thereafter, the concept proliferated into fiction about such creatures.

The real class war was the friends we made along the way to the class war

to tie it all together

William Randolph Hearst wouldn’t have had the balls to commission an article about how he was a nice guy and people should be nice to him. #respect

— matt christman (@cushbomb) December 3, 2018

i finally know how to pronounce jon bois.

free tweet to anyone wanting to do their part in ratio'ing eve: Pee Visor

i love when ppl turn heel

jon bwah

I searched for Eve Peyser to find out what this was about, and the first result was instructions on how to cancel a NYT subscription

eve peyser already did the jogging with david frum piece https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xeg84/david-frum-is-a-political-party-of-one

jon bwah

― Master Humphrey's Cock (Bananaman Begins), Monday, December 3, 2018 2:50 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see ive been saying this forever but also i live in quebec and only recently learned not to call the bubbly water "la-KWA"

Anyone else have thoughts on the MMA project? I feel like I must be missing something (having watched one MMA event in my life I probably am) but the writing seems really repetitive - how often does he have to repeat some variation of “weird men with bad tattoos”? And I guess the conclusion works in a symbolic “fight the inevitable unbeatable descent into shit” sort of way but I can’t help think about the effects on that guy’s brain from going out and getting pummeled for another 5 minutes.

We discussed it a little upthread. I think some of the details are interesting but I don't think it coheres.

Reminded that Peyser is friends with Olivia Nuzzi who’s kind of all about stuff like this.

olivia nazzi, call her by her name

yeah like as a history of MMA i was pretty fascinated by it but the shifts into doomy cultural commentary prognostication with some bad taste writing & low-rent visualizations made me feel like i was watching loose change 2 or something

fam this peyser/weiss thing is patently inoffensive idg why anyone would waste a holler about it

I think Natalie Shure does a good job in this short thread of getting at why it's so bad and annoying

For better or worse, a lot of people have friends whose ideologies diverge from theirs. But navel-gazing about it in the newspaper of record - without ever grappling with the impact your media pal’s writing may have on people’s actual lives - serves an insidious political purpose https://t.co/3W7xBWzMKq

— Natalie Shure (@nataliesurely) December 3, 2018

also weiss concedes not an inch in her support for the right while peyser spends a bunch of time grumbling about her alleged ideological compatriots

who navel gazes about the navel gazers

but yeah i see that latter point for sure

can't read "Bari Weiss" without hearing "Stav think he look slick in that wig" in my head

Xxxp yeah the historical stuff was often fascinating, I just didn’t see any criticism of it except commenters yelling about politics getting in their MMA.

I’ve only listened to a few CTH episodes but the one from a few months back with Felix going on an extended rant about the glory of the Krassenstein Bros was pretty amazing. Made it a little tougher to adjust to Serious Voice though.

Does the MMA doc have much actual fight footage in it? Because it sounds like the perfect excuse for someone like me who enjoys watching good fight footage but doesn't actually follow the sport.

some.

highlights & lowlights like gracie's infamous shattered leg that makes me queasy every time

For better or worse, a lot of people have friends whose ideologies diverge from theirs. But navel-gazing about it in the newspaper of record - without ever grappling with the impact your media pal’s writing may have on people’s actual lives - serves an insidious political purpose

it could be that there is value in having [and encouraging] friendly relationships w/ ppl you feel political hostility towards and it's not just navel-gazing.

nah

i’d be excommunicated with extreme prejudice from my antifa supersoldier battalion if i so much as nodded in the direction of anyone to the right of mao

I just can’t take that kind of risk, mordy

i understand; when we pass each other in the halls i won't be offended when you ignore me social standing above all

it could be that there is value in having [and encouraging] friendly relationships w/ ppl you feel political hostility towards and it's not just navel-gazing.

This only makes sense if your "political hostility" is a show, hence the ease with which NY media people can bro down with "the enemy."

I am friends with fairly few people, why should I go out of my way to make friends with people with bad opinions

where would I even meet a right-wing newspaper columnist?

Seattle Times offices

^ across the road from the SLU Whole Foods, your eyes meet while reaching for mochi ice cream

I feel like Mordy's basic position is Obama's (rational discourse is critical and other side should be engaged with in good faith, etc.) and, well, we all know how that turned out

went on chapo

— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) December 2, 2018

lol, of course it's already up.

Most socialists/leftists/whatever are friends with people who have different beliefs - liberals. You don’t have to move all the way to right-wing scum to be inclusive.

can't read "Bari Weiss" without hearing "Stav think he look slick in that wig" in my head

― louise ck (milo z), Monday, December 3, 2018 5:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yesssssss

the Weiss/Peyser piece is so rough. Some of it - if it were satire, it would be brilliant. Like this:

EVE: In these divisive times, the increasingly moralistic left has adopted this idea that those who don’t agree with you politically are the enemy. (And vice versa.) I think it’s a self-defeating way of looking at things. If we dismiss the almost 63 million people who voted for Trump as irredeemably evil, where does that leave us as a society? You voted for Clinton, and yet, when we became friends, I worried I’d get “canceled” if Twitter found out.

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

Such stunning insight:

VE: We also connected over our Jewish upbringings, being women writers, and finding common ground over the absurd aspects of internet outrage culture. Social media has the tendency to flatten people. It gives us the ability to immediately post any passing thought, which doesn’t lend itself to thoughtfulness or nuance. Not only can someone become a caricature of her stupidest tweet, but it creates an environment in which the most bombastic, aggressive takes about the hot topic of the day get the most engagement. Feuds flourish; offering the benefit of the doubt to another person is a sign of cowardice, or of not being sufficiently moral.

Seems like the most appropriate thread for this:

How is this real pic.twitter.com/yC6BggOcnE

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) December 7, 2018

Princeton episode is so bad.

They went to a bunch of Princeton debate enthusiasts to roast both Princeton and debating. It doesn’t sound like the crowd was into it! Def not as rowdy as the irony enthusiasts in the Harvard and Yale episodes. It was like Dice’s The Day the Laughter Died in spots.

I couldn't tell if no one was laughing or if the mixing was off tbh

Yeah, apparently some kid in the debate society kinda booked them with no one else really knowing who they were and showed up expecting Standard Debate.

mahmoud ahmadinejad, go on chapo

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I have visited @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE

— Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (@Ahmadinejad1956) December 11, 2018