Captain Marvel (2019), dir. Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck

All sorts of Hollywood bullshit is nominated for awards every year. I don't see any major difference between something like, say, Training Day, and the more critically acclaimed superhero flicks

how quickly we forget jd salinger's son as captain america (1990), which i'm pretty sure got a theatrical release

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.internationalhero.co.uk%2Fc%2Fcaptainamericasalinger3.jpg&f=1

i watched that recently! i enjoyed it ... not as good as the corman fantastic four film but still worthy

matt salinger is a profoundly oaken screen presence tho

big time

FTR, I seem to have no problem with direct-to-video horror film releases from that era, but I apparently hold Marvel to a higher standard.

If we're opening the floodgates, though, leave us not forget this produced-yet-unreleased masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcpmM-eTESI

Ha, I see that it was already mentioned as I was composing my post. Of course it was.

still better than josh trank's effort

Well then how about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNBRum247m0

hasselhoff was actually... okay in that iirc?

couple of things are getting scrambled up here --

* bresson and bergman as stand-ins for extremely serious, important makers of films that speak abt the human condition and have stood the test of time.

* the academy awards ("oscars"), an annual trade event where hollywood votes for its own and some other things; in some sense the equivalent of the "best southeastern regional concrete sales rep" but also sometimes a shorthand for high-quality work in and near a hollywood mode. bresson won no oscars; bergman won three plus a lifetime achievement one.

* moviegoers and critics who watch various kinds of movies, praising Logan as being a well-made genre picture with some good performances, and found room for it in end-of-year lists including oscar predictions (comparing it not so much to Moonlight etc. as to Alien Covenant and John Wick 2).

* ppl who primarily watch blockbusters and franchise stuff, who feel it is unappreciated as a Great Movie ("up there with Shawshank Redemption and Reservoir Dogs!"), and/or their avatars in print and web media whose role it is to generate endless content surrounding high-profile franchises, along the lines of "ten ways you didn't realize Logan was a secret western!" and "ethan hawke SLAMS superhero movies in major diss to fans!"

neither of these last two groups are talking about bresson or bergman, but hawke's quote is i think directed at the last group for giving some superhero movies the highest praise they have from their POV - they're talking about Logan as if it were a much better film because they don't watch many better films, in some measure because they've been crowded out of theaters. thus he may also be annoyed at the critical establishment for seeming to back them up and depriving attention from stuff that actually needed help at the box office. this would be a genuine problem for someone hawke-esque (if he were not massively rich, iirc through a stake in some franchise or other?) who wants to get tougher movies made and seen. but the bresson thing is obviously hyperbole and shouldn't bog us down.

All right, I'm goin' deep here in pursuit of something universally objectionable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s70h5BKCHxE

knew what that would be before clicking through in Flagging to display the youtube window

Good breakdown there, Doc C.

Hawke is granted powers by a cosmic entity and flies onscreen in First Reformed iirc

god this is giving me major flashbacks to reading endless breathless speculation about marvel movies in wizard xxp

DC otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SNlWYbcDrc

Feeling you as always, bg. Dug out my Wizard horde from my mom's recently and now they're in my home and I don't know exactly why.

actually this is basically Speedball turning into Penance afaiu

(I have read one Ditko Speedball comic and 0 Penance comics)

https://fathersonholygore.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/first-reformed19.png

first reformed spoiler

There's nothing in the prequel that will come as a surprise to anyone who's already seen Reformed.

the brave move would have been coming out against the middlebrow awards bait which is also stealing oxygen from smaller films

like really giving Darkest Hour the business

Dug out my Wizard horde from my mom's recently and now they're in my home and I don't know exactly why.

Here u go, please take the totems of a teenage shut-in depresso with the blessing of a middle-aged shut-in depresso.

Tell me, do you have room for some pogs

All sorts of Hollywood bullshit is nominated for awards every year. I don't see any major difference between something like, say, Training Day, and the more critically acclaimed superhero flicks

― Number None, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 19:40 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

training day is a good movie

logan or black panther or avengers are good comic book movies

it's all pulp

yeah look i get it but none of the comic movies transcend the capes and the dialogue tbh

fine with me

watchmen aside obv

birdman count?

Do you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning? DO YOU?

jesus christ its direct threats now is it

training day is risible guff elevated by a tremendous performance from denzel

yes

ive enjoyed most of the marvels et al but nobody elevated any of them that i can recall unforch

training day was the best argument for david ayer sticking to scriptwriting over directing, or maybe an argument for antoine fuqua not being able to spin straw into gold when it comes to some of the other scripts he's directed

I'm not sure what anyone is talking about anymore. If that is at all my fault I apologize.

When are they making a Carvel movie?

wow, just perusing Hawke's filmography and I guess he starred in a Fuqua-directed Magnificent Seven remake in 2016

where is your Bergman now, Ethan?

hawke is v interesting is there a marvel for him out there

obviously he ranks that as acting in a kurosawa adaptation remake, top flight material

the point is fair though: most of the superhero movies, at their most serious, aren't that far off from magnificent seven. only instead of tracking down a guy who can shoot uncommonly well to join your team, you end up recruiting a guy with claws or w/e

A lot of them are like "let's get the band back together again!" stories, except instead of a battle of the band at the end there is just a battle.

searching for Hawke today gets you: "Ethan Hawke Joins Terrence Howard, Wesley Snipes In The RZA-Directed Heist Thriller ‘Cut Throat City’"

he really should stop criticizing other people for having a shtick when he keeps doing these roles that are definitely a shtick

lol also: "Ethan Hawke on Why Vincent D'Onofrio Deserves an Oscar More than 'Some British Dork'"

hmm what's D'Onofrio been up to lately

Yeah, but he does those movies to pay for stuff like "First Reformed," right? Five for them, and one for me.

Ethan Hawke should try for one of those tons-of-makeup roles, or a CGI animal person or something. Get that Groot money.

hmm what's D'Onofrio been up to lately

Acting AG, iirc.

i think he may be great idk tho its the kind of suspicion that would disappear if i looked harder than sideways at it

i believe i’ve already established itt that ethan hawke will be playing johnny blaze in the ghost rider reboot i am casting in my mind

I get the point that movies that have an actual artistic intent and involve more work from the actors in the realm of, say, acting rather than having the patience to sit in a makeup chair for eight hours are preferable work and are subjectively better as art. Reading about how the Coens decided they'd rather pitch to Netflix than try to make a play for traditional studio money for their oddball project is kind of disheartening. But if actors can work on smaller projects and parlay that success into a big paycheck wearing a cape and pretending to punch people, then sure, go for it