I'm aware that they're supposed to be good but haven't tried yet.
― Siegbran, Monday, 10 December 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
I think they might be the best thing in this sub-genre. A lot of metalheads love them and Xasthur covered them.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 December 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
Lycia's Ionia is classic, and just got reissued so it's also easy to get ahold of! Even in tote bag form.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 10 December 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
Recently saw Dante's Inferno (about Dante Gabriel Rossetti) by Ken Russell and was pleased to discover it was the source of the clip at the start of Mors Syphilitica's debut album.
Had no idea about this band. Odd that they had 3 bands together.https://www.discogs.com/artist/939573-The-NCS
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 9 March 2019 10:08 (five years ago) link
Okay, nobody told me there was a new Lycia album out last year, In Flickers. It's even on Projekt.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link
Insides is probably the best Speaking Silence album by some distance, but again, could probably use a remaster/remix.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 24 May 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
Also, recently got into Shelleyan Orphan and its a crime that they haven't been pushed harder by fans of this stuff, because it's as good as any of this stuff and competes with peak Cocteau Twins for sheer prettiness. Weird lack of praise for them.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 24 May 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
Lisa Hammer - Dakini
I'm a fan of her work in Mors Syphilitica and Requiem In White so I was going to get this sooner or later. Detailed soundscapes with Lisa's voice (often multiplied), half of it kind of eastern sounding (sorry I cant be more specific) but going way way beyond the ambition of Dead Can Dance wannabes, whole load of instruments played, very warm and lush. Brilliant actually, it's sad so see this relatively ignored because it's the best thing I've heard with her (admittedly I haven't heard Primrose, NCS or Radiana). I understand that some fans of the more straight goth stuff will find this a stretch but it's worth it. The last three tracks are an amazing combo. One of the best Projekt style albums I've heard, please get it.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWJEvi4Di8Q
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
Watched the 2015 Lisa Hammer interview on New York Real youtube channel. Mostly about her film work but she does talk about the band, her and Dame Darcy possibly starting the gothic Lolita movement and a vampire wanting to watch her urinate.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link
or bandS rather
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link
So I'm listening to the new Chandeen (released in February 2020 looks like) and... wow. I'm not sure what I'm listening to here, but it kinda won me over. Lowy's got a passel of new-generation guest vocalists and is also breaking out some other stuff way outside of their usual gothic through-line.
https://youtu.be/5nDv-4oqk70
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 06:02 (three years ago) link
Any thoughts on Machine In The Garden? Surpised I can't find a single mention of them on this forum.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link
never really given them a listen, no real reason besides there just being too much out there to listen to!
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
Interesting list with a more specific slanthttps://rateyourmusic.com/list/sounds_of_decay/musette-and-drums-ethereal-gothic-rock/
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
https://fashionbird.bandcamp.com/album/phanerothymesLisa Hammer (I thought she had retired that name?) is on "Hunted (Werewolves Of The Astral Plane)" and maybe some other tracks and it sounds good. It's not very gothy but I'm liking their stuff.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link
Idylls by Love Spirals Downwards continues to be a classic album start to finish
― so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 March 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link
Yup.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 March 2021 03:37 (three years ago) link
in other goth news, Dark Entries is reissuing Clan of Xymox's Peel Sessions EP on vinyl and digital in a few days:
https://xymox.bandcamp.com/album/peel-sessions
Contains an amazing version of Seventh Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-__3hnUys
― so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 March 2021 05:11 (three years ago) link
I guess having a new singer prompted a different band name?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouq-r8hXr-Ehttps://trancetothemoon.bandcamp.com/releases
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 July 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link
This thread is a great resource!
Cocteau heads have to hunt down Heavenly Bodies with Carolyn Seaman from This Mortal Coil...pretty essential for completists, plus it ROCKS.
Someone stole my copy years ago, so I swiped it back via soulseek.
I prefer the folk / rhythmic aspect of this music and don't much care for classical influences and am looking for suggestions on Irish / Scottish folk that uses electronics or has a more ethereal sound. Also looking for ethereal bands who use funky folk rhythms like bel canto does.
But I'm gonna queue some of this today because I have a headache.
― Night of Olay: The Resurrection (I M Losted), Monday, 6 December 2021 12:42 (two years ago) link
CaroLINE Seaman, I mean. The one who sings on the 2nd TMC album.
― Night of Olay: The Resurrection (I M Losted), Monday, 6 December 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link
Ha, I think I have that around...
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Yeah the heavenly bodies album is worth seeking out
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
And I'll say another time that Lisa Hammer's Dakini is amazing
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
Looks like it's streaming on Apple Music at least
https://music.apple.com/us/album/celestial/1571240546
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link
Are those sound effects, or is this Apple Music version a somewhat noisy vinyl rip (listening to the opening of "An Obsession" at the moment)?
― early rejecter, Monday, 6 December 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
Just want to say how much this thread has helped. Really enjoying Trance to the Sun right now...love the heavy murk guitars...reminds me of when I first head-banged to Garlands or Head Over Heels all those years ago.
― Night of Olay: The Resurrection (I M Losted), Monday, 6 December 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
They're amazing, the run of releases from Venomous Eve to Atrocious Virgin is incredible. I often think Delirious might be my favorite because they way it escalates is brilliant.
I still haven't given their last album the proper listens.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 01:18 (two years ago) link
Breathless have a new album in july. I still only have Chasing Promises
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
There's lots to check out!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
Been reading Facing The Other Way and I'm very pleased that Nooten and Brook's Sleeps With Fishes gets its due. Looking at the RYM reviews I wonder how many people discovered it through the book. A real shame Nooten and Brook didn't keep it going but I still have a bunch of Nooten era Xymox and all his solo albums to get. And of course there's so much Brook.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link
I wish 4AD had been better with reissues in the last 20 years, surely there's enough incentive to reissue more of its B and C-list bands?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link
Well, last 20 years as you said, ie the collapse of the industry and people trying to feel their way forward. The incentives are low.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 June 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
At least everything I've looked for is available on digital (though I get CDs every time I can) but I wish other labels who still reissue all kinds of obscurities could get a hold of the rights or 4AD do those cheapie box sets (5 Classic/Original Albums).
There's been compilations of Lush, Colourbox, Rema-Rema and In Camera and some of them were limited editions. 4AD kept hold of everything, so I guess it's very unlikely the rights are going to shift companies.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 June 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link
Fairly sure more Lush reissues could have been successful
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 June 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
the pale saints reissue was well regarded, but they didn't repeat it with In Ribbons (30th anniversary was in march)
― koogs, Saturday, 4 June 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link
I'd be particularly grateful for reissues of Pale Saints, Xymox, Xmal Deutschland, Dif Juz and Wolfgang Press
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 June 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
nothing to add, just a thanks to RAG. dif juz mention has me revisiting for the first time in about 2 decades. i only ever heard extractions, so now that soundpool is on streaming i'm even hearing stuff for the first time ever. great way to spend a saturday afternoon.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Saturday, 4 June 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
I'm surprised I haven't talked about Scarlet Slipping's Fire In The Mist yet, it was a favorite at the start of covid. Dawn Wagner was great in Trance To The Sun (she was only on Delirious) and Scarlet Slipping was her own thing. Of course the common complaint in this thread is that the music often doesn't have a unique enough identity and I don't think that's a problem with Scarlet Slipping. Some tracks make me think of dark humid jungles and like Delirious, it's kind of dancey. I strongly recommend this album, she seems to have flown completely under the radar and has 5 albums, only 2 are easy enough to find.
Just downloaded the next album Hound and sounds good so far.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link
Actually she done some other Trance To The Sun stuff but Delirious was the only full album.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link
I was just talking with my friend about this album last Thursday on our way to the Spoon show in Hollywood. I need to dig out that album again as it has been a minute. 30 years has flown by...
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link
Scarlet Slipping's bio mentions a celtic influence, I don't really hear it
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link
in ribbons is one of my favorite albums of the 90s, you really should dig it out, bee!
― brimstead, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
I do need to, whenever I'm in the mood for Pale Saints I seem to reach for The Comforts of Madness but next time I will play In Ribbons as you and my friend suggested.
I also went over my ticket stubs recently and saw that I did get to see them live in Los Angeles. Truthfully, I can't remember that show as I was going to shows left and right in the early 90s.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link
I saw them in LA in 1992 the night they opened for Ride; Slowdive opened the other night, went to both shows. Missed the PS headlining at the Roxy IIRC, and the openers were Red House Painters, who had just been signed. (Maybe I'm not sad I missed that after where Kozelek ended up.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 June 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link
The 4AD Xymox albums got nice CD reissues in the 90s and the deluxe edition of Twist of Shadows from a few years ago is also very good... all you need really. Subsequent Pleasures and the Peel Sessions are also readily available digitally. Wouldn't mind a deluxe reissue of Phoenix, it had a handful of solid b-sides (Twisted, Dreamhouse, Down to Earth).
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 June 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
Just came across the footnote that Nooten, Brook and Heidi Berry were going to make something together but practical reasons prevented it, heartbreaking.
Been looking through so many 90s band discographies and its so daunting thinking about getting the bsides and loose ends if I feel compelled to, I had totally forgotten about the ridiculous trend of copious bullshit remixes. I thought that bsides/rarities collections were mostly a thing of the past (I miss them) but Belly released one last year.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link
Although I'm a CDs guy I think getting bsides on digital will keep me saner and my collection prettier
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link
belly, boo Radleys, lush all remind me of that period of British chart history when 3 formats were eligible for chart sales so they'd always release 2cd singles and a 7", all with different b sides. and for the first week, in order to maximize entry position, they be sold cheaply. so for every a-side you'd effectively get 4 or 5 b-sides.
― koogs, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link