Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

v glad no one knows who Lucrecia Martel is so she won't have to endure fanboy screeching over this

https://www.worldofreel.com/2018/12/director-lucrecia-martel-was-approached.html

The first thing I asked them was maybe if they could change the special effects because there’s so many laser lights… I find them horrible.

I don't know what she's talking about but otm

She’s certainly right about the music as well

totally otm on the music, but afaik there's no special gender bias operating wrt marvel handling the action sequences. that's how they do things.

is there any good writing anywhere on....what exactly that means, practically speaking

The 7th grader whose mom bought him white jeans and a black turtleneck, so he could look like Shang-Chi, is rejoicing at that movie announcement. Hope they've budgeted "Rhiannon" for the soundtrack.

Brie Larson Says Views The Upcoming ‘Captain Marvel’ As “My Form Of Activism” https://t.co/JwZZDFZguq pic.twitter.com/2fqPpsmHEr

— The Playlist 🎬 (@ThePlaylist) February 5, 2019

woke af 🔥

Two Namor omnibi announced in quick succession got my spidey sense tingling and sure enough, rumors are circulating that Marvel has the rights again and a film may be afoot.

At least part of the upcoming slate has to be dropping right after Endgame, as a multitude of projects are seemingly well underway with few/no official announcements beyond Spider-Man: Far From Home. Like I just read a thing that Dr. Strange 2 may be released next year, which has to mean that they've at least started filming.

Yeah, Scott Derrickson tweeted and deleted a cover featuring Strange and Namor a little while back

For those keeping score...

Basically 100% confirmed:
Black Widow
Eternals
Shang-Chi
Dr. Strange 2
Black Panther 2
Guardians of the Galaxy 3

Rumors a-swirlin':
Ghost Rider
Blade
Namor

Assumptions and wishful thinking but who knows how they intend to make it happen:
FF
X-Men

Feige (or someone) has also confirmed that they intend to keep minting money with more Deadpool films.

I’d loooove for Doom to show up at the end of Avengers

Doom should be the Thanos of the next slate of films for sure

Sub-Mariner film could be great fun, as long as they remember to make him a dick.

Rumors a-swirlin':
Ghost Rider

JUSTICE FOR NEVELDINE/TAYLOR

Ghost Rider already appeared in Agents of SHIELD, would they be treating it as a separate continuity then, like DC does with it's TV series and movies?

That was muscle car Ghost Rider, movie would presumably be original motorcycle Ghost Rider (not horse Ghost Rider, cyber Ghost Rider, ex-ILX poster ghost rider, or other motorcycle Ghost Rider(s)). hth

Oh yeah, I guess I hadn't thought of that. IMO Ghost Rider has always been a rather boring character concept, but I the movie could be a bit more interesting if it featured Johnny Blaze and was a Captain Marvel style period piece set in the '70s, so it could be informed by the interests of that decade (trick motorcyclists, occultism, etc), just like first GR comic was.

Having it set in a time period where there are (pretty much) no superheroes would also help alleviate the fact that Ghost Rider feels out of place in the fairly secular MCU (which was already evident in the Agents of SHIELD), as opposed to the comic book Marvel universe, where demons and deities lurk around every every corner.

Feige continued, “that’s right my little piss pigs, sit in your mess and watch me make another billion dollars.” https://t.co/aeoHR1a01C

— Lance St. Laurent (@LanceStLaurent) April 10, 2019

https://www.mskcc.org/sites/default/files/patient_ed/caring_for_your_urinary_foley_catheter-20241/foley-fig_1-en.png

Is that how all the superheroes go so long stuck in their suits? Just sloshing around, waiting for a spare second to drain their leg?

Stillsuits brah

Where does the Hulk poop? (A: Wherever he wants!)

why not this one morbs

I will piss for the entire length of this movie, fuck to the Feige https://t.co/74ESXuKNby

— K. Thor Jensen (@kthorjensen) April 11, 2019

A question for the nerds: they went through great lengths to show how powerful these heroes are, and how even that was (for a while) no match for a villain like Thanos, who they built up over several movies. So, as they ramp up the next phase of movies, are they going to do it again? Tie everything together around a big villain? What other villains of that stature are there left for the Big Bad grooming? Dr. Doom? They've sort of gone through or repurposed a lot of them already, haven't they? Fantastic Four seems most ripe for material, but a reboot of that under the Disney umbrella also seems a long way away.

spoilers

Oh, yeah, sort of, I guess.

It will be very interesting to see what they will do next. The cinematic universe continues, surely it needs some kind of overarching threat if they want to keep matching their big hits of the last couple of years.

There's indeed some likely candidates from the Fantastic Four property. Apart from Doc Doom, planet-eating entity Galactus comes to mind, although they used a version of him in the second Fantastic Four movies.

Or Annihilus: ruler of the negative zone (some sort of alternate dimension parallel universe) who unleashed the destructive Annihilation Wave in Marvel's cosmic comics' major crossover Annihilation. That army might be too similar to Thanos' army though.

It'd be pretty cool if they will use the omnipotent Beyonder or the race of Beyonders, and will head towards some kind of Secret Wars event. There are two different comic book storylines to repurpose for this: the original all-out contest between heroes and villains on a newly created Battleworld and the 2015 apocalyptic clash of multiverses. Both comic book storylines heavily involve Doctor Doom.

Oh yeah - the introduction of the Skrulls in Captain Marvel also opens up the possibility of the Secret Invasion storyline, wherein Skrull impostors infiltrated the whole world (including every superhero team) to prepare for a worldwide takeover and as soon as it gets started nobody trusts each other anymore.

Another big baddie: Kang the Conqueror (see also: Immortus), but this guy's known for time-traveling and I'm not sure if that's a likely thing for future MCU movies.

Hellooooooo, sailor!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/Kraven_the_Hunter_Venom_157.png/250px-Kraven_the_Hunter_Venom_157.png

We should have a poll thread. I’d vote Beyonder at this point though.

Doom would be the best, but requires a bit of character buildup. Galactus (like Doom and Thanos, a complicated villain) and Silver Surfer and Fantastic Four and whatnot would be awesome, but for some reason I can't see them rebooting that franchise yet again so soon, or at least anytime soon. (Though I suppose Spider-Man successfully did it, so who knows?). The Beyonder ... having just done a giant ensemble piece with most of the marquee names, I'm not sure they can necessarily do that again. At the least the same problem arises, and that there are not enough villains around for the heroes to fight.

I suppose it partially depends on who or what they introduce in Galaxy 3, and that is a while off. I don't think I know anything about the movies they have announced so far. who are those characters and what are their big battle storylines?

Just saw a graphic (not sure if real or not) announcing Phase 4: 15 films, of which 7 or so are fairly explicit sequels/continuations, plus reboots for Silver Surfer and Fantastic Four.

I think we're in for 2-4 years of Strange/Spidey/Marvel/Panther/Ant Man/GotG with a smattering of whatever half-announced movies before anything major or crazy happens. BUT you best believe they'll be seeding teams and threats - namely Fantastic Four or X-Men.

The Eternals supposedly coming next year so expect more Celestials to be introduced

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/why-im-leaving-marvel-universes-new-york

‘Ghost Rider:’ Gabriel Luna to Star in Marvel-Hulu Series

‘Ghost Rider:’ Gabriel Luna to Star in Marvel-Hulu Series

I've enjoyed at least a third of these movies.

So, dud.

― Eric H., Monday, April 7, 2014 7:45 AM (five years ago)

Well that was just a flat-out lie from me. Sorry 'bout that.

I saw on imdb that there's supposed to be a Jared Leto-starring MORBIUS THE VAMPIRE movie out next year.

Yes, but not MCU-related. I know, it's very confusing. Every detailis very, very confusing.

I'm kind of confused by the Ghost Rider news. Why Hulu and not Disney+? I kinda figured they'd start to consolidate their TV shit since, even with the Netflix shows being cancelled, their remaining programs will now be spread across four different networks and streaming platforms. And still with no clear indication that anything beyond the impending Disney+ shows will actually 'matter' wrt the larger MCU.

They said mature programming will go to Hulu

I guess that makes sense. Although now having read the entire article, I'm confused again because apparently the guy who has already portrayed Ghost Rider on a MCU show will be portraying Ghost Rider on another MCU show but...a totally different Ghost Rider than the Ghost Rider he previously portrayed?

Come on, Marvel. Try to remember, you're not DC.

Like Ghost Rider is a demon who rides different hosts. If you wanted to make a show about an all-new, all-different Ghost Rider...look, I'm not going to walk you millionaires all the way through this.

MCU Multiverse!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt9L1jCKGnE

No wonder this is the end of Phase 3.

Just throwing out some wild speculation so that I can strut around like a big man on the slim chance that I'm accidentally right: there's not actually a Black Widow film forthcoming. Yes, they're currently filming something which features Scarlett Johansson reprising her role as Black Widow and they've allowed people to believe that it's a Black Widow movie, but because no MCU film beyond Far From Home has been officially announced and because we know what we know about the character in question, I predict some Captain America: Society of Serpents sleight of hand once the official slate drops.

Mods, if I am revealed to be wrong please delete, thx.

Literally just had a friend bring this up yesterday. I don't see why they would do this, both in secret and right after they introduced someone else taking over for Captain America.

Falcon and Bucky are getting their own show (which, if rumors are to be believed, involves a third party vying for the shield) so they're set for a little while.

(A third party new to the MCU but familiar to comics heads and whose ID I'll bet you can guess if you think about it for a minute.)