i'm not a fan of their music, but def leppard was the most popular band of a dominant genre (hair metal) for years. it's hard to argue they don't deserve to be in the rock hall, especially if the objectively inferior bon jovi is in already
― big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
Guns n Roses too.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
Hysteria is definitely a landmark piece of work...insane album
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
First four albums all solid
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
it's hard to argue they don't deserve to be in the rock hall, especially if the objectively inferior bon jovi is in already
Literally the only argument in their favor IMO. "Well, we let this even shittier band in - guess we're stuck with 'em."
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
Eric Clapton is in three times
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link
xp Funny how you cut out the first part of Voodoo Chili's argument!
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
I'm starting to think Wire isn't going to get in!!!
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
Because "they were really popular!" doesn't mean anything to me.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
Fine, but here are the Rock Hall's official criteria:
PerformersThis category honors bands or solo artists which demonstrate musical excellence. Such a descriptor includes (but isn't limited to) influence on other performers or genres; length and depth of career and catalog; stylistic innovations; or superior technique and skills.
They also say, Besides demonstrating unquestionable musical excellence and talent, inductees will have had a significant impact on the development, evolution and preservation of rock & roll.
Given those loosey-goosey standards, an argument can certainly be made for Def Leppard that goes beyond, "Well, we let in KISS and Bon Jovi..."!
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link
i don't like hair metal, but it seems silly to me to have a rock hall and not include hair metal
― big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link
Hair metal should absolutely be included, and I would 100% argue for the induction of Mötley Crüe, Ratt, Poison, W.A.S.P. and Junkyard (a band that hasn't got a chance in hell of getting in, but who were really quite good).
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link
Being really popular does seem like a possibly relevant criterion for a hall of fame tbf.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
Also wtf Ratt?
the studio techniques that led to hysteria sounding as massive as it does (still) are HOF worthy on their own
― maura, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I had the thought that Mutt Lange probably deserves to be in there.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link
Meat Loaf/Jim Steinman together
― Siegbran, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link
Point being I might actually watch the ceremony - on first broadcast!! - this year on the strength of the nominees.Also I have nothing against Def Leppard, I was just thinking of who on that list I had the least personal passion for. Plus I've checked now and Fleetwood got in back in 1998 so Stevie Nicks is almost certainly the one I'd swap out for Todd anyway
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 14 December 2018 04:27 (five years ago) link