Beer in the new era

because craft beer is never not funny, the beer retail "franchisor" that is local to me is crowdfunding legal fees for the shitty, baseless lawsuit they filed against glassdoor over negative reviews of their horrible franchise offering:

https://www.brewbound.com/news/2018/to-fund-ongoing-legal-disputes-craft-beer-cellar-turns-to-crowdsourcing

brew dog's new session ipa "cybernaut" is excellent. and i can get it in the fastnesses of leyton.

Inevitable, but Chicago beers have been increasingly going full NEIPA. I like Noon Whistle a lot, but Pipeworks is in on it now, too, and Marz, Hubbard's Cave, Maplewood, etc, plus the usual hyped upstarts like Hop Butcher and Alarmist. (And nearby Michigan's Old Nation has apparently fully embraced the style, too, though I have yet to try their flagship M-43.) I was drinking the latest from Hop Butcher, "Neon Green Relish," which was good. After I poured it my daughter walked by and asked if I was drinking orange juice, so ... mission accomplished?

a limited amount of hop butcher has made it to boston...dude i know has been going nuts about it but i haven't found any yet. the name is really brutal.

most brewery names are brutal imo

xpost Boston? Really? It barely makes it around Chicago.

yeah...i assumed it was pretty official since i know of one store that's had it multiple times. i guess it could be an "unofficial" distro.

I was admittedly nonplussed with Finback for years, but they must've hired a new brewer because I had a wide sampling of their new stuff at an event and all were good to great. Def on my radar now.

Man my local had Avery Tweak on draft the other night, holy shit what an eye-opener.

Haha, yeah that has about as much alcohol and caffeine as legally possible in a beer. FWIW it was originally called Meph Addict (the base is Mephistopheles).

https://thethirstywench.com/2019/02/12/the-hell-the-sexist-asinine-ramblings-in-great-lakes-brewing-news/

This sucks because I have a friend who writes for GLBN and "#notallbeerwriters" and all (he didn't write the piece in question, which is garbage) but everyone's having a hard time processing this. There is an fb "apology" that only makes it worse due to predictable reasons.

i went to the hillstead farm brewery and i think im a bear nerd now

i love this update

bear nerd say hi to me

lmao

srsly tho i think that was the best beer ive ever had theyre on to something up there

i had it the night before at my fave in the middle of the nowhere down some dirt road vermont pizza place too

the brewery too same deal

shaun's an actual genius. they've been doing some killer lagers recently which would totally be in your wheelhouse.

like all the types i tried even stuff i dont like like they only have one type of beer in cans at time and i just got the ipa to take home with me cause thats what they had and its really good

it's the good stuff. if i go through my favorite memorable individual beers they've made more of them than anybody else and it isn't close.

Did you get any Samuel? That bottle is trading at $600-800 on the secondary market.

CAD hooked me up about 5 years ago with a ton of Hill Farmstead and he made me a fanboy.

i had it the night before at my fave in the middle of the nowhere down some dirt road vermont pizza place too

Parker Pie?

yup thats the place

id had it before but going to the brewery just really blew my socks off, the place just had the strong doing good things vibe which i value highly, and the beer was so good i felt high

Yeah, I've still never been but it's been on my mind for a while...

Beer in the new era

I have 3 buddies who are Collective Works members so I'm hoping to try some of those soon.

haven't been up in almost a year and definitely have the itch. i do live 10 mins away from the only bar outside of vermont with regular access to hill so that helps.

I was confusing that with Collective Arts out of Toronto, which makes some pretty good beer (and has great can art!).

i went to the hillstead farm brewery and i think im a bear nerd now

Neckbear-d.

Walked by a pair of maybe 11-year-old boys yesterday and just overheard a snippet:

Boy One: The what?
Boy Two: The hop harvest! You know, hops.

Do you live in Oregon or New Zealand?

Hop Butcher, my favorite young local brewery, focuses mostly on NEIPAs, which I like, but they seem to be cranking out a new beer every week or so, and it's hard to keep up. But they just released a beer for St. Patrick's Day that seems so gross: a double milkshake IPA with mint and dyed green. No thanks. Kind of like the New Yorker fiction issue, it's nice when something you like more or less gives you the week off.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/food-dining/2019/03/18/bell-two-hearted-ale-standout-crowded-field/ocwIllq6sqvt61dRBezCsI/story.html?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=BellsBrewery

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for me it’s like the IPA equivalent of the metal rod in Paris that was the official meter

Not a huge fan of Two Hearted ...

I did have a Heady Topper last night. That's NEIPA ground zero, right? When did that acronym make its first appearance? What was the first beer to try and ape Heady Topper?

I’ve gotten burned lately by a couple of NE IPAs that have not been labeled as such. Not that I hate them but to me they’re not even close to the same thing as your standard IPA and it sucks to pour a can of some hazy shit when you aren’t in the mood.

like anything the juice craze is just what it is a a craze just like all the over the top badly done barrel aged imperial stouts a few years back. the good ones will survive the rest will go away.

ipa juicing is killing the snob beer industry

Heady Topper is not an NEIPA AFAIK but CAD or AJB are better suited to answer that question IMO

Heady is the OG NEIPA IMHO TBQH FWIW. First canned in 2011 ("Drink From The Can" on the packaging because the beer was so ugly for that moment in beer history).

Other hazy IPAs existed at the time (notably Alpine Nelson & Hill Farmstead experimentals like S&S#4) but nothing was in a 16oz can and embodied/preempted the hazy-can-mania that would arrive in the following decade.

They even use the word "hazy" on the can.

True story: A former ILX poster sent me a can he stealthily procured from a late night hookup's fridge (she was from VT iirc).

Thank you ILX.

lol what a bro

from this very thread (which is kind of like browsing a museum!):

I'm pretty stoked about the Goose Island Batch 5000 I brought back with me from Chicago - also made a run up to Wisconsin for New Glarus/Summit stuff, and it all survived in my checked luggage on the way back.

Heading to Vermont this weekend for the Hill Farmstead bottle release and a Heady Topper run - the latter when fresh is better than Pliny imo and worth digging up if you're in New England (their cans should hit Boston sometime next year).

― Federal Titt (govern yourself accordingly), Tuesday, November 15, 2011 9:22 AM (seven years ago)

man heady topper is so good

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:06 AM (seven years ago)

IIRC, that post by GYA is to get the very first canning run of Heady Topper! There was a wicked Nor'Easter that weekend according to legend, almost flooded out The Alchemist's former location.

tropical storm irene was in august 2011 and destroyed the pub. that prediction of the cans hitting boston is lol in retrospect!

haha totally remember reading about that

btw i have heard people make the claim that heady isn't an neipa but generally people advancing that as a serious point have been too addled by juicebombs to appreciate that the style originated with heady's danker, more traditional hop profile.

the big deal in 2011/12 was heady's crushability relative to other dipas of the time. before that my perception of dipas was via cringing my way through a dogfish head 90 minute or something.

not super Hazy really but my go to IPA from the northeast is Sip Of Sunshine it's easy to get and damn good.

sip is very good. lawson's was always mentioned in the same breath of the other big vermont brewers even though the sunshine ipas were his only beers that really fit the profile.

to me the use of the newer hops, the lighter malt bill, and lower bitterness are more important to the style than the presence of haze.