Black Panther (2018), dir Ryan Coogler

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relationships to parents is actually pretty low in Marvel (far more a thing for DC): only Guardians of the Galaxy and to an extent Thor have it in their origin stories.

source of power / iconic abilities are obviously necessary parts - we need to know that Tony Stark will die if the reactor in his heart is off for too long, and that he can't summon a magic hammer (okay okay, technology is frequently treated as magic)

Point taken though that 2/3 of this happens in another film entirely.

I'm not quite sure what to make of the idea that Wakanda has no internal history - it runs from the very first scene, including the history of Klaw.

(also please stop saying mythical / archetypal - Joseph Campbell is happily rotting in his grave)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link

(i don't mean it in that sense, but it's not as if talking about that dimension of a narrative is something he invented or that died with him. it's about making sense of the core metaphors tied up in the fact, in-movie, that the characters are more(-powerful)-than-human - which most of these do with some kind of logic of transformation and control. i don't see how you don't have to do it sooner or later with superhero universe movies, just to identify the core interest. otherwise they're all just a lot of spectacular junk.)

j., Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

otherwise they're all just a lot of spectacular junk

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sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

i'm surprised people are talking about this as a best picture contender,

important to bear in mind that film quality is totally irrelevant to a best picture nomination/award, which is more about the industry collectively and publicly affirming the values it likes to think it holds

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

personally while I'm glad this movie got made and was popular, I fell asleep and couldn't finish it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Only complaint I had was that I know what Forest Whitaker looked like in 1992, and it damn sure wasn't like Denzel Whitaker.

pplains, Sunday, 4 April 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

Who is.. no relation?

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 4 April 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

None at all!

pplains, Sunday, 4 April 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link


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