Bobby Womack C/D

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hmmm...sounds like there's a whole lotta rippin' goin' on...

henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The melody is definitely from the Womack song... or rather the instrumental hook is

Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hm, looks like it was both.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

On the other hand, Jim Ford didn't seem to happy with Bobby's attitude toward songwriting credits.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Up to and including So Many Rivers: mostly C.
Thereafter: almost always D.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i've never heard about him ripping a womack song, Jorge Ben successfully sued him for ripping taj mahal tho

deej, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

He should have sued Womack too then!

Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

well, as you say it was only the hook that was lifted from the Womack tune...(but man, it was lifted)...maybe it wasn't enough of a rip to justify legal action...

henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

or, maybe Jorge Ben to this day isn't even aware of the Womack tune...maybe we can get him sue Womack, and maybe Jorge will share some of the settlement with us, the alert posters of ILM...maybe...

henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

No, Womack didn't rip Jorge Ben, Rod ripped both Jorge and Bobby for different parts of the song.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Naughty Rod

Tom D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Remember he got into that mix-up with The Rutles as well.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like me some Womack but his recorded output is really erratic. C: Across 110th St sdtk, parts of Communication, his playing on Riot.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Across 110th Street = first R-rated movie I ever snuck into...

henry s, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 18:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i like him, but his albums are all patchy. great rhythm guitarist, great voice, just wish he had more songs on the same level as everything else.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i must be the only person in the world who actually prefers k-ci's cover of if you think youre lonely now to womacks.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"his mannerisms can grate"

this is also OTM. was just listening to his cover of bacharach's close to you and its a bit parodic. or maybe time hasnt been very kind to that sort of soul singing. not sure.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

classic. except for quite a few of his covers. including the remake of its all over now with bill withers which should be classic but isnt.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 13:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

given the descriptions as 'patchy' i would love to examples of the classics - i only know across 110th street and have never got around to litening further.

fantasimundo, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Imagine there's a few good comps out there

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

his "california dreamin" is maybe the best song i've ever heard in my entire life

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

His "Sweet Caroline" is, well, sweet: "Here's my part, heh." "Secrets" and "110th St" are grand too. But his "Living in a Box" is just weird, and as the years went on, he increasingly simply ignored the song structure at hand and just scatted/vamped over the others' work.

Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I love "That's The Way I Feel About 'Cha," "Across 110th Street" and "If You Think You're Lonely Now." Classic, based on those three songs.

!Alicia!, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 20:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

the thing about womack is you have to really LOVE what he does otherwise there isnt much chance of liking many of his albums as theyre all very samey and yes i know you could prob say that about a lot of artists but there isnt that much variation in what he does.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 21:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah but My Prescription is choice, his best record and pretty essential soul.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 19:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

his c+w album is £3 on cd @ fopp, as one of the 2-fer-1 releases that $tateside put out.
very tempted.

mark e, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 10:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

just wanted to get a '1 year passes ...' before that pic

Matt P, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 00:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

anyway 'womack in memphis' sounds so good right now

Matt P, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 00:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

Can I just put in a word for the joy that is 'If You Don't Want My Love (Give it Back)' , especially the bit where he quotes You Keep Me Hangin On.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

his The Best of the Poet Trilogy CD is just absolutely killing me today. I've had it for a few years but today every single song is hitting me with some WHOA GENIUS ALERT stuff. A lot of his stuff has finally hit iTunes which is good news to me.

man though this record today is hitting me in a "you can't be my friend unless you LOVE THIS" way, damn.

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 29 October 2009 21:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Across 101th St contributions aside, Womack has kinda underwhelmed me. given the Sly connection and the voice and the cross-genre goofiness and everything I *should* really dig him, but everything I've heard has been pretty hit and miss.

one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 21:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

man get that best of the poet album, for real

if you already have then disregard obv

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 29 October 2009 21:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have the 101th St one and then whatever one had Harry Hippie on it, forget what that was called. Some other random songs here and there

will check out and report back!

one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 22:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

ah Understanding is the other one I have

one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 22:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

dig this unstoppable jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK32ZAB0yts

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 29 October 2009 22:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

The excellent recent UK film "Fish Tank" features California Dreamin' prominently.

ρεμπετις, Friday, 30 October 2009 01:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

The great man was on Jools Holland with Gorillaz last night, and did a small teaser for Friday's show, promising a full version of If You Don't Want My Love, Give it Back.
Probably one of my top five Bobby tunes, along with Across 110th Street, Girl You're Welcome (Stop on By), So Many Sides of You, What is This?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHkwzTKSdx8

Can't find a live version, but here you go...

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

didn't see Bobby Womack, but the other Bobby (McFerrin) was awesome!

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Cool.

The "Oooooooooooooooooooooo" at the beginning of "Across 110th Street" is the best ever.

Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

The "Oooooooooooooooooooooo" at the beginning of "Across 110th Street" is the best ever.

― Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:38 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

69, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yes. The Saturday afternoon show on WKCR of the same name is pretty good too.

Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 18:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

The London Sunday Times last weekend reported that Womack is working with Blur/Gorillaz frontman Damon Albarn on an album of new material. Albarn will produce Womack.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

The London Sunday Times

LOL Americans. Yes, BW was part of the legendary Gorillaz line-up at Glastonbury: legendary for going down like a fart in a spacesuit.

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

I just took that from someone's posting on a Yahoo southern soul e-mail group. Womack was also on the most recent Gorillaz album (and maybe the one before that).

But this pairing stay true to the tradition that older black musicians are only relevant and can only get attention when younger rock artists produce them.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

He played a tiny fragment of If You Don't Want My Love (Give it back) on Jools Holland's show a few months back, just him and an acoustic. Sadly, he had no band and just did the Gorillaz number with them.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 17:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

http://stereogum.com/971542/bobby-womack-please-forgive-my-heart/mp3s/

i like this

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 00:06 (six years ago) Permalink

new solo album called The Bravest Man In The Universe, his first studio effort since a 2000 Christmas joint. Gorillaz leader Damon Albarn and XL Records boss Richard Russell are both serving as producers,

I like the single too.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 03:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Man, this guy's had some bad luck in the last year: http://pitchfork.com/news/49025-bobby-womack-diagnosed-with-early-signs-of-alzheimers/

Bravest Man In The Universe has really grown on me, by the way. Questionable production, definitely, but some of the songs he wrote for this are just too good to ignore.

Everything You Like Sucks, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Alzheimers. Poor guy.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 January 2013 14:38 (five years ago) Permalink

BMITU just missed my Top Ten, but it was a very good year.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I saw D.C. old-school soul singer Eddie Jones do a great version of "Harry Hippie" the other night. Was listening to Womack this morning--"Across 110th Street" is so passionate.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 15:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I like his rendition of "California Dreamin'" too

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 15:43 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I can't believe I've gotten this far in life without reading about the Womack clan...iirc Bobby married Sam Cooke's widow (2 months after Sam was killed) while steppin with her daughter Linda who married Cecil who married Mary Wells who later shacked up w another Womack brother whose name escapes me. If there's a biography there I'm going to read it.

musically, Saturday, 15 March 2014 05:24 (four years ago) Permalink

The Bravest Man in the Universe, indeed.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 March 2014 12:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Despite current health issues, he's doing some gigs

Live
Sunday May 4, 2014
New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival, New Orleans

Thursday June 12, 2014
AT&T Performing Arts Center, Dallas

Saturday June 14, 2014
Bonarroo Music And Arts Festival, Manchester

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:34 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bobby-womack-dead-at-70-20140627

Teenie Hodges, Hi Rhythm and Al Green guitarist died the other day and now the great Bobby Womack (teenage gospel singer, guitarist with Sam Cooke, Wilson Pickett and Sly Stone, pal of the Rolling Stones and successful solo artist). RIP Bobby

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 June 2014 23:41 (four years ago) Permalink

So sad. A life and a legacy both.

Did he make that Bonarroo date, I wonder.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 June 2014 01:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I feel it is worth mentioning that his recent "comeback" album The Bravest Man in the Universe was a) one of the very few of these kinds of things that wasn't just him and a bunch of guest stars rehashing his old hits, but rather an album of new material, and b) was really, really good.

You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 28 June 2014 01:30 (four years ago) Permalink

Not sure if he really played on "Suspicious Minds" but who cares. RIP.

That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 June 2014 15:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Major RIP :(

Οὖτις, Saturday, 28 June 2014 16:11 (four years ago) Permalink

This sucks, his music was a big part of my life

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 28 June 2014 16:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Never knew he was left-handed and played upside down.

That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 June 2014 16:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Extra sad this came in the middle of a career revival. RIP.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 28 June 2014 17:41 (four years ago) Permalink

i saw him a few months ago at jazzfest and he was absolutely incredible, no surprise. rip, blasting the shit out of the poet all day

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 28 June 2014 17:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah RIP. Very significant in my teenage years. I never saw him perform, to me he had everything.

mmmm, Saturday, 28 June 2014 23:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Not sure if he really played on "Suspicious Minds" but who cares. RIP.

― That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:27 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...especially when he is all the fuck over there's a riot goin' on.

blasting that's the way i feel about cha right now.

RIP bobby.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 29 June 2014 04:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Hm. Didn't even realize he was on that. Must...read...the credits... carefully...as in the old days.

Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 04:41 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't think there are actually proper credits on that LP! but it's well-known.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 29 June 2014 07:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I feel pretty silly for having listened to Riot for 25 years and not knowing Womack was on it until two days ago.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 June 2014 11:53 (four years ago) Permalink

NYTimes obit:

Correction: June 28, 2014

An earlier version of this obituary rendered incorrectly one word in the title of Sly Stone’s most ambitious album, which Bobby Womack helped produce and which is now a soul classic. The title is “There’s a Riot Goin’ On,” not “There’s a Riot Going On.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 June 2014 11:55 (four years ago) Permalink

He's got some credits that are hard to keep track of, like Kaylan and Volman.

Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 12:21 (four years ago) Permalink

RIP Bobby.

(Just noticed I started this thread and I never start threads...)

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 June 2014 13:26 (four years ago) Permalink

You must have been moved to do so by the passing of Jim Ford.

Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 13:35 (four years ago) Permalink

You can check the timing here

Riot In #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 June 2014 13:36 (four years ago) Permalink

stones do all over now in tribute

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 29 June 2014 14:36 (four years ago) Permalink

First time I saw him he opened for the Stones

curmudgeon, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:57 (four years ago) Permalink

Extra sad this came in the middle of a career revival. RIP.

Not as sad as if it had happened before a career revival though. At least he got the chance to make a great record, get back on the road, play arena shows and festival headliners with Gorillaz and get adoring press.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 30 June 2014 18:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Its sad that he died, period at age 70.

curmudgeon, Monday, 30 June 2014 18:41 (four years ago) Permalink

Fresh Air has been replaying the 1999 interview, which you can download---lots of good stories and musical excerpts (also at least one xpost goofy but invigorating cover so far):
http://www.npr.org/2014/07/11/330713212/fresh-air-remembers-soul-singer-and-songwriter-bobby-womack Also, at least one fairly recent Memphis show in the Beale Street Caravan archive:http://bealestreetcaravan.com/ But I just tried to download that one too, with Firefox's Flashgot, as I've done on BSC.com before; this time it crashed my computer. Oh well, gently down the stream.

dow, Saturday, 12 July 2014 19:54 (four years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

http://images.junostatic.com/full/CS1703184-02A-BIG.jpg

just dunno

j., Friday, 20 March 2015 02:59 (three years ago) Permalink

dunno what the world is coming to either. Wish Bobby was still around to share that

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 March 2015 14:37 (three years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Ha I'm listening to that album right now... halfway thru the track "Git It", which I've just noticed (are you reading this Shakey + Kerr?) has lead guitar by Glen Goins... as does the next track.

holger sharkey (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2015 17:53 (three years ago) Permalink

Also just noticed that Bobby plays a lot of bass on this album ... and guess what? He's fucking good!

holger sharkey (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2015 17:59 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

wicker game strong as well

j., Friday, 30 October 2015 21:27 (three years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

:((((((( RIP Bobby

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:43 (two years ago) Permalink

... wait a minute, he's already dead!

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 13:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Yes, I'm an idiot. Sorry. This is what happens when you see something on a friend's Facebook page and you fail to check.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 14:45 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I looked for a while and this Bobby Womack "Soul Sides" 2 cd compilation that came out on Metro Select in the Uk is a good compilation. He did alot of ballad material (stuff not unlike Isaac Hayes), but I love his stuff when it gets funky as his guitar is always really tasty. Good comp. 'Across 110th Street' was always the tune that got me interested in Womack's music.

earlnash, Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:16 (ten months ago) Permalink

"Daylight" is his ultimate masterpiece. The catchier things he did, the more ornate work, is his best; as a conventional soul singer doing the conventional cover versions, except for "Fly Me to the Moon," he wasn't all that interesting. "How I Miss You Baby," "What Is This," "It's Gonna Rain" (Tommy Cogbill's bass rules), "Arkansas State Prison," "That's the Way I Feel About Cha," and the mind-boggling "You're Welcome, Stop on By" are amazing. I don't care for his '70s albums, by and large--the material isn't there and his covers are forgettable. "If You Think You're Lonely Now" from '80 is his last great moment. I like his more obvious stuff from the Moman recordings, "Broadway Walk" and so forth. But he was never really the soul vocalist his peers were, so it has a self-regarding edge that detracts from its impact--he was just conceptually a bit soft, undefined. I love him, beautiful guitarist, but I think his career boils down into a fairly small set of tunes. Maybe someone could compile the later stuff to some effect.

eddhurt, Saturday, 10 February 2018 13:09 (ten months ago) Permalink


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